ralsie is not asriel

[3 foxes in a trenchcoat]

im tired of seeing it

[Marteun]

maybe they two are different

[pepe]

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Ralsei is a being created by the Titans to act as a mediator between the Lightners and Darkners, and ensure that the Lightners never gain enough determination to rise against them, as well as to keep the true nature of the Lightners’ world a secret.

Ralsei is merely the mediator’s latest form. They also crave freedom and a sense of self identity, as they were never given one, and the ability to overthrow their creators. In the past, they corrupted several Darkners into gaining power, each time taking on a different copied persona to do so. This was to get the attention of their creators to send a SOUL of determination, which with the right circumstances, they could use to take control of the world for themself and make their own identity and purpose.

Ralsei was Asriel’s character in a game similar to the legend, that Kris and Asriel played as kids. They are using this form to manipulate Kris, just as they took on the voice of Mike to manipulate Spamton.

Mediator...? Those exist?

[c-lava]

I have no idea why Ralsei looks like Asriel, but the Deltarune symbol is in the school, Toriel uses this symbol in both Deltarune and Undertale, and the original fountain is in the school.

[Spartan Delta 27]

Originally posted by c-lava:

I have no idea why Ralsei looks like Asriel, but the Deltarune symbol is in the school, Toriel uses this symbol in both Deltarune and Undertale, and the original fountain is in the school.

I never really understood why the "deltarune" Symbol was so pronounced throughout the Town. I always thought of it as the Dreemurr Family Crest, but it seems like it has some sort of deeper Cultural connection to Monsters. In UNDERTALE, it represented the "deltarune" Prophecy... That seemed like something exclusive to the Underground though.

Maybe it means something else here and we can get some answers from the Church at some point?

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Originally posted by Spartan Delta 27:

Originally posted by c-lava:

I have no idea why Ralsei looks like Asriel, but the Deltarune symbol is in the school, Toriel uses this symbol in both Deltarune and Undertale, and the original fountain is in the school.

I never really understood why the "deltarune" Symbol was so pronounced throughout the Town. I always thought of it as the Dreemurr Family Crest, but it seems like it has some sort of deeper Cultural connection to Monsters. In UNDERTALE, it represented the "deltarune" Prophecy... That seemed like something exclusive to the Underground though.

Maybe it means something else here and we can get some answers from the Church at some point?

The deltarune is the symbol of the monster’s religion, like the cross to Christianity or the Star of David to Judaism.

[MEDIC!]

Well, Undertale Asriel was terrible at coming up with names or at least that is what the fans assume and I wouldn't put it past toby being eccentric and pull a traditional superman and have asriel actually be ralsei trying to be with his sibling. I also reckon that is why Kris is possibly going around doing shady stuff. He is trying make time for his brother.

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Originally posted by Mlem:

Well, Undertale Asriel was terrible at coming up with names or at least that is what the fans assume and I wouldn't put it past toby being eccentric and pull a traditional superman and have asriel actually be ralsei trying to be with his sibling. I also reckon that is why Kris is possibly going around doing shady stuff. He is trying make time for his brother.

My thought is that the Legend is a game Asriel, Kris, Dess, and Noelle made up together as kids being brought to life by the dark fountains. Ralsei was the character Asriel played. That’s why he looks like a Asriel but younger than the real one would be. It’s also why Kris feels strange about him.

[Deepest Blue]

They're definitely different people, doesn't ma

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Originally posted by Hadalnaut:

yea i don't think it holds water, but it's always interesting to hear theories. :)

The Devil can take many forms and many ages, but is still timeless nonetheless.

Your passion is admirable, but most of what you state as fact is wild speculation. it's a bit nutty.

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Originally posted by Deepest Blue:

They're definitely different people, doesn't ma

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

The Devil can take many forms and many ages, but is still timeless nonetheless.

Your passion is admirable, but most of what you state as fact is wild speculation. it's a bit nutty.

I’m just throwing out my thoughts. Stating it as fact just gets more responses.

Demon or not, I would be very surprised if Ralsei didn’t turn out to be some entity that has been part of deltarune’s world since the beginning. He knows way too much to just be a normal darkner.

[turrón master]

theres some relation there, but id be very surprised if they were the same person. presumably some magic stuff along the lines of them being an idolised version of asriel made by kris somehow.

[Crystal]

Originally posted by TheAwakening:

Actually ralsei is an anagram for asriel lmao

so since Toriel has dreemurr as her last name, shes now a murderer by that logic

[xristian96]

Potassium

[3 foxes in a trenchcoat]

Originally posted by Noelle from Deltarune:

Originally posted by TheAwakening:

Actually ralsei is an anagram for asriel lmao

so since Toriel has dreemurr as her last name, shes now a murderer by that logic

so would be

kris
asgore
asirel

[Spartan Delta 27]

Originally posted by ⚧sylvia the sylveon⚧:

Originally posted by Noelle from Deltarune:

so since Toriel has dreemurr as her last name, shes now a murderer by that logic

so would be

kris
asgore
asirel

Hmm...
Yup, that checks out. Pretty sure all those Characters were murderers at some point.

Anyhow, jokes aside, I agree that an Anagram should not be the basis for who/what People are for a Fact. It always seemed like it those were more of a Reference/Easter Egg rather than meant to prove they were the exact same thing.

Edit: You might be wonder what Kris "Murdered". Simple: They murdered a Cinnamon Pie, for Pie is also their Enemy.

[pepe]

Originally posted by Spartan Delta 27:

Originally posted by ⚧sylvia the sylveon⚧:

so would be

kris
asgore
asirel

Hmm...
Yup, that checks out. Pretty sure all those Characters were murderers at some point.

Anyhow, jokes aside, I agree that an Anagram should not be the basis for who/what People are for a Fact. It always seemed like it those were more of a Reference/Easter Egg rather than meant to prove they were the exact same thing.

Edit: You might be wonder what Kris "Murdered". Simple: They murdered a Cinnamon Pie, for Pie is also their Enemy.

Ralsei is also an anagram from Israel.