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The Japanese localization helped a lot for me too, since there's pretty obviously some rough spots in the English translation that are clearer in the other languages.
For anyone who's interested in how the full story fits together, here's the chronological version of the key events and cutscenes as best I could organize it
(MAJOR SPOILERS)
Prelude
Rose's Infant Years
The Resurrection
This is the critical turning point of the plot and the underlying mystery of Rose. What happened to her after the Birdie Festival?
The Witch's Portrait
The Main Setting
I thought the whole storyline was really cute to play through and tough enough to piece together that it really took going down different routes 3 - 4 times before it began to make sense intuitively. The distorted timeline and low-key delivery of the plot points made it especially easy to think you were just seeing background information on your first playthrough, but the writers did a good job repeating the critical story hints multiple times in different chapters until you notice something is up.
The only significant problems I ran into were Asbel's funeral scene (5-year anniversary should be either 6th or 15th?) and inconsistencies in the English localization like "Little Angle Rose" or "Ambiguous." Otherwise they showed a lot of love to the storytelling and had great voice acting (little Rose especially, she was way way too cute :D)
This is great! Such a good job breaking down the lore and storyline!
My only take is that I don't think Rose I comes back to visit after the the epilogue cutscene because in the Japanese voice over, the kid addresses Rose II as onechan, which is a common way for younger people to address an older female, regardless of being blood or family related, even if the literal translation is in fact "older sister". It's just common in Asian culture to refer to someone slightly older than us as "older sister" or "older brother".
About Lebsa, what I understood is that Lebsa declared herself Absel's apprentice and was later adopted. Lebsa came to light after Absel's death, the soul transfer did instantly kill Absel, the funeral scene is an anniversary of his death
Just finished the game recently and I'm so glad people recently talk about it.
This is also my first comment in the steam community, so I think it's appropriate I use dear Rose as my profile for now.
In the English localization she explicitly says "My older sister" when addressing Rose II, plus the character design, voice actors, and game IDs identify the girl on the rooftop as Little Angel Rose (our Rose I). I didn't read too deeply into that cutscene because I think the purpose is just to flag to players that they missed a secret route in the story. If you don't clear the 4th forest zone before Winter October, the crusade events are silent skipped (you just see a newspaper clipping like the first expedition, which wasn't joinable)
That's how I interpreted the story as well, but in the funeral scene the Minister says "five years have passed" since Asbel's death. By Kenneth's age difference, that should be the 15th year anniversary because Rose II is present in the dialogue. Even without timeline trickery, that duration wouldn't be long enough to align with the Birdie Festival (6 - 7 years earlier)
It's such a small detail that it could definitely be a mistake on the scene script, though
I revisited the cutscenes and checked on a few things... it seems like the English localization has mistakes in the dialogue there and it's supposed to be a village child (that tuft of hair in the bottom right) talking to Rose II. I think the mistranslation sent me down the wrong track, since it's actually a bonus scene that triggers after you achieve a good ending. It's grouped numerically with the Little Angel Rose scenes, but it's probably not her since it's missable.
The "????" speaker (Volcano Goddess) after that scene is the one who hints at the secret route and she supports the view that Rose II is the only survivor ("My greatest child... lives until the end of the world") for that time loop. That dialogue is unmissable and not connected to the rooftop cutscene like I had previously assumed.
Also unrelated, but there's a chance "Wood is a descendant of the original bluebird" is not true, based on this part of a convo with Luca in the "Home" room in Collection (after the true ending).
"Mom: What's the matter, precious little bird~?
Rose: Mama, as the Volcano Goddess you must have created a lot of life already. How many precious little birds does mama have?
Mom: Oh, only you and papa!
Rose: Really? But doesn't the Goddess love all life?
Mom: Not as much as you two, my daughter. If your father had not been with me in that dark valley,
I would not have had the confidence to practice there alone for so long and finally become a goddess."
"dark valley" sounds like the dark place she was in with the blue bird visiting, unless he stayed with her in the mountain after the bear thing, it's a bit hard to tell. It's also a bit strange the convo doesn't mention Rose I.
There's also these lines from an ending letter variation, implying the dad may not know the truth of how they met exactly. If she erased/manipulated his memory of the spring event, it wouldn't surprise me if she kept this from him too.
"Luca: I want to tell her many, many stories, starting with how we met...
Wood: I've told her them all.
Luca: That's your version, I'm going to tell her my version~"
Also the true ending scene speaks of dad becoming a bird "once more"
"Wood: Speaking of which, the feathers on my arm seem to have finally disappeared.
Luca: Let me see, I thought they were cute.
Wood: Since your return, the Great Degeneration of Volcano Country also seems to have subsided...how strange.
Luca: Ah... there is indeed a special reason for that.
Wood: What do you mean?
Luca: Because I wanted to see you so dearly... I didn't expect rewinding time to have such incredible force!
Wood: Your wishes actually influence the development of the country itself, you're truly amazing.
Luca: It's a good thing I came back, otherwise you would have become a little bird once more."
That's a possibility I considered as well, but there isn't enough material in the story to explain how Wood could be the original when it's thousands of years later. Most of the ruins in the forest come from the prior country of Heathcote, and forest dialogues indicate that the Volcano Goddess was known there more than 300 years ago.
If Wood was really with her before the origin of civilization, then it introduces a lot of story contradictions that don't really further the plot in any way. How can he be immortal but Rose II can't? Why wait millennia to have a first child? Why mess with his memories when he's as old as the goddess and saw the very cradle of civilization?
The bluebird scene has been a major point of confusion for players, so I wanted to include at least one bullet on it, and the issues clear up entirely if the goddess just fell in love with a normal goofy guy (in terms of their world). You're just a regular dad and that's all the hero that Rose needs in her life.
I think it's more likely that the "dark valley" in that dialogue is figurative and refers to the same time period as the herb filtering cutscene, when Luca was trying to figure out how to resurrect Rose and only had Wood to help her through it. That process and the time loop were emotionally challenging for Luca and pushed the boundaries of her divine powers to their limits. Rose II doesn't have memories from then, so she wonders at when that conversation happened in the same dialogue.
That's supposed to be how the Great Degeneration works for everyone. We don't see anyone fully transform back, other than news articles about disappearances, but Claude explains that everyone is from a former animal lineage and they're degenerating back to those forms.
Derrick is also from the bluebird lineage, like Wood, although I don't think it's explained how he ever recovered from it. He's definitely the most suspicious character in my view because he seemed to know Asbel well and was the only canon character aside from Basilou to meet both Roses.
I just finished my first playthrough over at Twitch and based on the achievements I somehow got the true ending and have to say, I was incredibly confused.
I still kinda am, even with your explanations here, but at least it makes a bit more sense.
Again, thanks for clearing things up a bit.
So thanks a lot, it's really a nice and interresting story and I'm happy to understant it better now(going in a secong playthrought with those informations I will try to pay more attention to the details now^^).
Also it only took me now and reading the names repetedly to realise that Lebsa's name is just Asbel in reverse x)
Disclaim: It's a analysis from internet players, and doesn't confirmed by official team. It is also not my original works. Also I am not native English speakers, so there are maybe wrongs.
Some speculations about Mother and Father: Mum is the God of Volcano Kingdom, however, she was not born as a god. Most people were not created by her. When she was on her long spiritual path, she created a bird to keep her company because she thought "the world was dark and boring." This little bird later reincarnated into father, as well as the players(us). When dad was at 16 years, he was saved from beasts by God of Volcano. I think God of Volcano surely knew who this guy was. Just like fate's arrangement, they love at the first sight. After they got married, twins were born. However, the littler sister died because she is a mortal and cannot bear the great power of her mother. This fate doesn't affect older sister because she, the older sister is inheriting her mother’s divine energy. Mum hopes that both twins will be born and live a healthy life, so she goes back and forth in time to try to find a perfect way. However, every time she failed. The littler sister will definitely die after birth. Mum keeps to go back and forth in time, this behavior reached twenty-four times. When game starts, it is already the 25th time that twins born. Due to too many resets of time, the ecology has changed, and mum gradually turned into Owl princess. She must leave from dad. After the 25th birth of twin, the littler sister died again. So at among of the 0~5 years of daughter, dad raised the older sister in the all time.
When the older sister reached at 6 years, the old hero kidnapped the older sister, placed his soul in her body, and killed dad who was chasing after her. Dad was saved by mum again. At the same time, the mother resurrected the littler daughter, eliminated the father's memory of her and the older daughter's death, and inserted the older daughter's memories from before she was 6 years old into the littler daughter's mind.
Please pay attention to the chronological time in the upper left corner of the game interface. Let us assume that a Volcano citizen is born on January 1st, Spring Volcano Years, and here were the outline then:
1st year: Spring Volcano Years
2nd year: Summer Volcano Years
3rd year: Autumn Volcano Years
4th year: Winter Volcano Years
5th year: Spring Volcano Years
.....
Now let us look back the daughter's ages. When she was 6 years old, it was on Spring Volcano Years. But when she was 13 years, it is on Summer Volcano Years!!! You see? But according to the game world settings, if everything goes right, it should be equals(13-6)/4=1......3, it should be Winter Volcano Years.
The possible explanation is that when Summer Volcano Year starts, daughter is the littler sister. And there is an age difference of 7 years between the twin older sister and the litter sister, because the younger sister was died when the older sister was 0-6 years old, and was resurrected only after the older sister was kidnapped and taken away by Asbel when she was 6 years old.
This is an age axis I made. The one on the left is older sister's age (which is also what the twins should be), and the one on the right is younger sister's age in actual:
Older Sister's Actual Age Volcano Year Litter Sister's Actual Age
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I hope you can get something useful from this article.