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Alien Oscar Apr 17, 2023 @ 7:10am
Unit upgrade and level medals
During the latest stream I saw that feudal pikeman units evolve into another unit at reaching level 4 and that there is a medal at level 5.

Is it possible to delay the upgrade so that you can get the level 5 medal and then upgrade?
If so, would the medal be retained?

Timestamps:
Explanation: https://youtu.be/nbVb8zQpXeI?t=3689
He gains a level with loot, still has the pikeman at: https://youtu.be/nbVb8zQpXeI?t=3820
He has defenders out of nowhere (probably a bug that they do not update immediately): https://youtu.be/nbVb8zQpXeI?t=3889
Last edited by Alien Oscar; Apr 17, 2023 @ 7:52am
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Originally posted by Beytran70:
I noticed this too and had it explained to me by Jordi on Discord. The way it works is that each unit "class" such as Shock or Polearms have generic shared bonuses when they rank up. The rank 5 Retaliation ability is inherent to Polearm units, and the game automatically generates the information for the rank UI for these units, not understanding that evolving at a certain rank would make later ranks irrelevant because they cannot be reached.

So it's just a limitation of how the unit stats and stuff are gathered and displayed, nothing more.
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Von Herbst Apr 17, 2023 @ 7:22am 
Do you have an timestamp? I must have miss that. Just remember that they said that the elementals do this.
I would guess this works like in the previous games with Kirko/Draconians hatchlings (and, well the elementals), wich would mean that the lower tier veteran unit becomes a level 1 (0?) high tier unit.
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Rhalius Apr 17, 2023 @ 7:38am 
As long as it makes sense I don't mind it, like the pikemen becoming more armoured pikemen is fine. But not if it becomes a completely different unit.

I like variety so wouldn't want experience gain to cause less variety.
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Alien Oscar Apr 17, 2023 @ 7:53am 
Originally posted by Von Herbst:
Do you have an timestamp? I must have miss that.
Edited with timestamps
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Alien Oscar Apr 17, 2023 @ 7:56am 
Originally posted by Rhalius:
As long as it makes sense I don't mind it, like the pikemen becoming more armoured pikemen is fine. But not if it becomes a completely different unit.

I like variety so wouldn't want experience gain to cause less variety.

The problem is not that they evolve, its that its weird that there is a level up medal that you cannot reach, I would prefer delay evolution to get a more jacked up defender.
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Beytran70 Apr 17, 2023 @ 11:05am 
I noticed this too and had it explained to me by Jordi on Discord. The way it works is that each unit "class" such as Shock or Polearms have generic shared bonuses when they rank up. The rank 5 Retaliation ability is inherent to Polearm units, and the game automatically generates the information for the rank UI for these units, not understanding that evolving at a certain rank would make later ranks irrelevant because they cannot be reached.

So it's just a limitation of how the unit stats and stuff are gathered and displayed, nothing more.
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