Age of Wonders 4

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Crixus Dec 29, 2024 @ 10:16am
How to unlock a heroes second paragon choice ?
When a hero get's to level 16 I can only choose one of the bonuses while the other one stays locked. How do I unlock the second choice please ?
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Pantagruel Dec 29, 2024 @ 10:32am 
It's a bug that two choices show up.
How do you even get that high? Do you have to declare war on the whole world to fight enough people for exp?
IlluminaZero Dec 29, 2024 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by BigFatJuicyMonkeys:
How do you even get that high? Do you have to declare war on the whole world to fight enough people for exp?
I find it a bit mysterious myself TBH as I've had games that have gone on for +100 turns where my ruler was ~lv 10... Although I'm finally modifying my gameplay to reflect this.

Experience is distributed on a per-unit basis. IE the smaller your force the more experience the participants get. Chances are if you are chronically low leveled you are smashing the map mobs with gigantic stacks of low rank troops.

My present Dragon campaign is really putting this into perspective. I would frequently overkill mobs so auto-battle would; hopefully, minimize attrition. But I'm actually confident enough with my Dragon's solo capability that - Well lets just say my Dragon at turn ~20 is higher level than my prior Champion at turn > 100.

I suspect I'll need to get used to teching up faster and/or using small hero squads for map clearing.
Last edited by IlluminaZero; Dec 29, 2024 @ 4:11pm
Yeah, the way EXP works encourages smaller armies, I don't really like it.
Serious Stan Dec 29, 2024 @ 5:11pm 
Depends on the affinity, most of them have only 1 option.
Pantagruel Dec 29, 2024 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by BigFatJuicyMonkeys:
How do you even get that high? Do you have to declare war on the whole world to fight enough people for exp?
No, you just have to enter fights with low numbers of units.

The experience for a fight is the total of the xp values of the units in the enemy army ((unit tier + 1) * 2), divided by the number of units in your army, with a minimum divisor of 4, and then rounded up. It's not particularly hard to get level 16 (270 xp) by turn 50.
Crixus Dec 29, 2024 @ 6:02pm 
Originally posted by Pantagruel:
It's a bug that two choices show up.

Ah ok that's a shame. Thank you for the info though :)
Crixus Dec 29, 2024 @ 6:03pm 
Originally posted by BigFatJuicyMonkeys:
How do you even get that high? Do you have to declare war on the whole world to fight enough people for exp?

I normally just use 1 stack so my main hero with a ritualist + 4 units and then go around clearing all the enemies and wonders I can find around my cities. The xp comes in really fast even without fighting in any wars.
jeem9000 Dec 29, 2024 @ 6:45pm 
If you set the game to regenerating infestations and high world threat, you'll have plenty of stuff to fight and level your heros up nicely. Although some people don't like this, I think it's very nice.
Last edited by jeem9000; Dec 29, 2024 @ 6:46pm
DNLH Dec 30, 2024 @ 12:25am 
Originally posted by jeem9000:
If you set the game to regenerating infestations and high world threat, you'll have plenty of stuff to fight and level your heros up nicely. Although some people don't like this, I think it's very nice.
This, although I do feel like it bends too far the other way, with Slow game pace and regenerating infestations I ended up with Legendary units and level 20 Heroes about 3/4s through actually winning the game and just from trying to get ahead of infestations in my bit of the map.
Terrkas Dec 30, 2024 @ 1:12am 
Originally posted by Crixus:
Originally posted by Pantagruel:
It's a bug that two choices show up.

Ah ok that's a shame. Thank you for the info though :)

Its actually not a bug. Its to ensure you can pick the 2 choices of non-paragon affinity skills.

After all, you could take an adept choice in 3rd and 4th slot.
Toddasaurus Rex Dec 30, 2024 @ 11:26am 
experience gain skills and effects are your friend.
Pantagruel Dec 30, 2024 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Terrkas:
Its actually not a bug. Its to ensure you can pick the 2 choices of non-paragon affinity skills.
It's a bug; if there's no skill at a given branch, that branch shouldn't appear. It's not a particularly important bug, though.
jeem9000 Dec 30, 2024 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by Pantagruel:

It's a bug; if there's no skill at a given branch, that branch shouldn't appear. It's not a particularly important bug, though.

Maybe the next DLC will fill that slot.
salamatmahal Dec 30, 2024 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by Pantagruel:
The experience for a fight is the total of the xp values of the units in the enemy army ((unit tier + 1) * 2), divided by the number of units in your army, with a minimum divisor of 4, and then rounded up. It's not particularly hard to get level 16 (270 xp) by turn 50.

Sorry if this is a dumb question...

Is the way to maximize experience to my ruler/hero to put him in a stack of him plus no more than 3 other units?
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Date Posted: Dec 29, 2024 @ 10:16am
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