Can you join your allies in battle- I can't.

[PeaceMaker]

I've been long allied to one guy. We went to war with some Voss guy.

"I'd better send some troops to help my ally!" I thought.

So I send a strong stack to join his stack on the enemy border. He moves his army back and forth for a bit, but finally sieges a city. I join next to him. And I spent a lot of time making sure my army stayed with his since there seems to be no war-coordination mechanic.

A couple of turns later, city taken, but I wasn't invited, even though I'm a max ally? Then I noticed in later battles I never join him.

So in the end I just took back my men cos I could use them better elsewhere. So it seems you don't get to join in your Ally's battles. Ridiculous.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by PeaceMaker:

Can you join your allies in battle- I can't.
I've been long allied to one guy. We went to war with some Voss guy.

"I'd better send some troops to help my ally!" I thought.

So I send a strong stack to join his stack on the enemy border. He moves his army back and forth for a bit, but finally sieges a city. I join next to him. And I spent a lot of time making sure my army stayed with his since there seems to be no war-coordination mechanic.

A couple of turns later, city taken, but I wasn't invited, even though I'm a max ally? Then I noticed in later battles I never join him.

So in the end I just took back my men cos I could use them better elsewhere. So it seems you don't get to join in your Ally's battles. Ridiculous.

It is ridiculous because it is not true. You can join them as they can join you.

[ReverseRaven]

This is actually one of the reasons I was skeptical about changing the adjacent hexagon rule. In older AoW titles I could plop down a few summons next to an allied city I knew would be under attack so I could at least provide spell/operation support. With the new system the AI can just choose not to bring your stack in as long as it has three stacks with it.

Have you tried attacking an enemy stack using your stack with the AI stacks nearby? Because at the very least I have gotten my vassals to help me clear out neutrals from time to time but that's the extent of our alliance.

[PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by ReverseRaven:

This is actually one of the reasons I was skeptical about changing the adjacent hexagon rule. In older AoW titles I could plop down a few summons next to an allied city I knew would be under attack so I could at least provide spell/operation support. With the new system the AI can just choose not to bring your stack in as long as it has three stacks with it.

Have you tried attacking an enemy stack using your stack with the AI stacks nearby? Because at the very least I have gotten my vassals to help me clear out neutrals from time to time but that's the extent of our alliance.

No, I've not. I will try.

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by PeaceMaker:

It is ridiculous because it is not true. You can join them as they can join you.

Maybe I'm missing something then, cos I've never had it happen in all my battles with Allied AI armies near.

[Drake]

How was the army configuration ? You're still limited to 3 stacks per battle, so if the ally already has 3 stacks in the area, they might not use your stack.
In these situations position is relevant so that your stack appears closer than the 3rd stack of the allied army.

[Frienby]

Sometimes vassals let me join them against marauders, sometimes they don't. I'm not sure what the rules are beyond the 3 stack cap.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Frienby:

Sometimes vassals let me join them against marauders, sometimes they don't. I'm not sure what the rules are beyond the 3 stack cap.

I'm guessing it's some kind of "I can deal with it myself, without endangering your troops" logic.

[Cellar_Cat]

It works for me, as long as they're close enough. In fact it works so well that when I have AI allies, they often accidentally draw my auto scouts into battles.

[BoogieMan]

As long as your army is within the red hexes that show around the targeted enemy (within 2 hexes in any direction if I recall) they will get pulled in to battle with any friendly army you have a defensive pact or alliance with.

There is limit of 3 armies per side, and I believe the 3 strongest armies per side get auto selected if more are within the reinforcement radius.

[Frienby]

Originally posted by BoogieMan:

As long as your army is within the red hexes that show around the targeted enemy (within 2 hexes in any direction if I recall) they will get pulled in to battle with any friendly army you have a defensive pact or alliance with.

There is limit of 3 armies per side, and I believe the 3 strongest armies per side get auto selected if more are within the reinforcement radius.

Then it's bugs. Which... is not surprising. lol

[アンジェル]

In one of my early games, with the first hotfix patch, an ally used two of my armies to take over a city. I had mixed feelings because I wanted to take the city and it was my troops which reinforced theirs.

Anyroads, I can assure you, they can join and let you join in battle. Most likely depending if it is beneficial for them or not. They work exclusively with numbers, and if their armies's power values are higher, they might choose not to use yours.

You can also always deselect armies from the battle prognosticar screen for various reasons.

[camelotcrusade]

I've been there, OP. I had two of my armies take refuge in a vasal city state and thought it would protect me from marauders by pulling in the center vassal army. Nope, it wast just my two stacks and a brutal fight against one of those all T4-T3 marauders.

For that one I had my units in a horizontal line with the vassal at the end, but it didn't pull it in. Then when an other stack headed towards me, I rearranged so we were in a triangle with me, vassal, me. That time, they joined!

[Chikanuk]

Dunno what you talking about - in my last game i got combine fight vs infestation with vassal 2 times in a row.

[PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by camelotcrusade:

I've been there, OP. I had two of my armies take refuge in a vasal city state and thought it would protect me from marauders by pulling in the center vassal army. Nope, it wast just my two stacks and a brutal fight against one of those all T4-T3 marauders.

For that one I had my units in a horizontal line with the vassal at the end, but it didn't pull it in. Then when an other stack headed towards me, I rearranged so we were in a triangle with me, vassal, me. That time, they joined!

Well I guess it can happen. thanks people.