Trading with Vassals

[Geowood]

Is there any way to direct production, food, or manpower to a specific player city (I have more than one) when entering a trade agreement with a Free City? The game seems to default to which player city is closest to the Free City with no way to select anything else.

[SQW]

Trade, negotiation and diplomacy have taken a big step back compared to 3 and PF unfortunately. Guess the dev think giving players all the toys in the box will wow them enough they wouldn't notice the problems.

And no, it's automatically assigned to the nearest so good luck remembering which of your city is closest when you are re-negotiating trade with 10 vassal free cities very 10 turns.

[suejak]

This seems to make city placement decisions deeper? I can go either way on this, but I don't think it's obviously a step back.

Who the hell has 10 vassals btw? Another turn 150 player?

[MEATSHED]

Originally posted by suejak:

This seems to make city placement decisions deeper? I can go either way on this, but I don't think it's obviously a step back.

Who the hell has 10 vassals btw? Another turn 150 player?

Honestly its not that hard as order and being aggressive, I had 11 on turn 90 making the cities I took over vassals due to not wanting having a big city cap.

[Morphic]

Originally posted by suejak:

This seems to make city placement decisions deeper? I can go either way on this, but I don't think it's obviously a step back.

Who the hell has 10 vassals btw? Another turn 150 player?

Depends on Map, Settings, and what the Player chose. E.g. on Large maps it's quite easy to run into 4-8 Free Cities within the first ~10 Turns. Normally you'd only be able to have 3 owned Cities, so unless you are being a Raze/Pillage Aggressor... you're gonna want to Vassalize everything you come across to beef your economy while you are stomping through.

Not to mention the additional levy army/units gained from vassals, or the free screen/fodder aspect.

[M0rgi]

Originally posted by Morphic:

Originally posted by suejak:

This seems to make city placement decisions deeper? I can go either way on this, but I don't think it's obviously a step back.

Who the hell has 10 vassals btw? Another turn 150 player?

Depends on Map, Settings, and what the Player chose. E.g. on Large maps it's quite easy to run into 4-8 Free Cities within the first ~10 Turns. Normally you'd only be able to have 3 owned Cities, so unless you are being a Raze/Pillage Aggressor... you're gonna want to Vassalize everything you come across to beef your economy while you are stomping through.

I thought 4 cities were standard for most games

[SQW]

Originally posted by suejak:

This seems to make city placement decisions deeper? I can go either way on this, but I don't think it's obviously a step back.

Who the hell has 10 vassals btw? Another turn 150 player?

Going with Order and heavy on vassal perks plus releasing all the conquered cities as vassals quickly let you build up a considerable list quickly.