What this game truly lacks is a warcraft3-esque campaign and characters

[WarHøg]

Seriously, every player wants something like that. Characters with personalities going tro situations, dilemmas, battles.

Warcraft 3 is the best example that comes to mind, the whole story and journey was impactful and worth of remembering to this day, hell, it made world of warcraft, basically.

The characters here need something like that, campaigns, stories, decisions. Voice acting would be cool, but even age of wonders 2 managed to be nice with text only campaigns and a few voice lines.

As of this moment, the devs are simply milking old names... Nekron, Mab, etc, are just names.

[KlausKerner]

agree but this train has left already...

[WarHøg]

Originally posted by KlausKerner:

agree but this train has left already...

remember the writing on planetfall? They did try something there, but it was a small effort

[suejak]

You are wrong, every player does not want that. I have zero interest in a campaign.

[The Doctor]

Originally posted by WarHøg:

Seriously, every player wants something like that. Characters with personalities going tro situations, dilemmas, battles.

Warcraft 3 is the best example that comes to mind, the whole story and journey was impactful and worth of remembering to this day, hell, it made world of warcraft, basically.

The characters here need something like that, campaigns, stories, decisions. Voice acting would be cool, but even age of wonders 2 managed to be nice with text only campaigns and a few voice lines.

As of this moment, the devs are simply milking old names... Nekron, Mab, etc, are just names. We need character, that would make this game a lot more reaching to the filthy masses, not just our nerdy 4x fantasy niche

Some players certainly do want this. For them, the campaign IS the game and it's not a sentiment confined to the AoW franchise either. Somebody pointed me to another title yesterday and when i read their boards, I found similar sentiments being expressed there. For the campaign folks, the sandbox experience is a waste of their time.

And there's the problem - I suspect that the majority of players don't care that much about campaigns because if they did, AoW4 would have a story campaign like AoW3 did.

Same goes with 'lore' characters. I use all my own where possible because I have a far deeper connection with them than I do to some lore character.

I really don't care at all for 'stories' in games unless I were to be playing a RPG or similar where the story IS the game. But in 4X games, the sandbox is all that matters. But that's just ME.

[JustaGamer]

Originally posted by WarHøg:

Seriously, every player wants something like that. Characters with personalities going tro situations, dilemmas, battles.

Not really? It's not even a matter of preference or which is better, sometime you just enjoy what being offered.

One thing I don't like about campaign in games like this because very rarely there is a game that feature a persistent campaign, meaning your teach carried over each map. It's immersion breaking that my civilization just seemingly forget all of their culture tech advancement and achievement every time we enter a new map. Sure, you do the same thing in AoW4 but at least here I choose to make a new race each time, so the redevelopment make sense.

Also you seem to underestimate the sandbox gerne and its player, many of us have absolutely no issue to headcannon our own story. I'm neutral, but some may even prefer that. I won't say no to a good and well-crafted premade set of heroes, but the lack of one is not necessary a bad thing for me provided if the game give me enough customization to create me own.

[Oaks]

Originally posted by WarHøg:

Seriously, every player wants something like that. Characters with personalities going tro situations, dilemmas, battles.

I'd much rather have customization for making my own factions, stories, and adventures than have a campaign. Just because you want it doesn't mean you speak for all players.

[Midas]

Originally posted by KlausKerner:

agree but this train has left already...

Not necessarily. We don't know how they'll handle stories in the DLCs, they might focus on it differently.

However, the story behind AoW games has never been anything revolutionary, so I'm not expecting an epic and gripping tale.

[Neonivek]

While we are at it... Can we talk about how this game doesn't have enough Dark Souls mechanics?

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Welcome to modern gaming.
I hope you still can refund.

[chewer]

Originally posted by WarHøg:

Seriously, every player wants something like that.

Nope, definitely don't want that. Procedural maps and tons of options for customization, this is what I want.

[~ Fabulous ~]

they already try that in AoW2and SM with cinematic and all, but dont think many play it

[KellyR]

Please don't speak for others on subjective things. I'm a player and I don't want "Characters with personalities going tro situations, dilemmas, battles."

I like my own stories and characters much better than anyone else's.

[KellyR]

Originally posted by WarHøg:

every single one of these filthy peasants comes comment to disagree

That's what happens when you try to put words in other people's mouths. You make them angry.

[aclyte]

Well, i would like to have great campaing with voiceover e.t.c (everything you described).
BUT! It takes dev time and money, so, if devs would ask me what i want more - campaign OR couple additional cultures / tomes/ settings/ race options e.t.c. i would chose second variant.

[Kaelmato]

No, not every player wants that.

I personally have no need of a campaign in a 4x game, just seems off to me.
Don't get me wrong, I love campaigns in RTS games like wc3, and I love games with great stories.
But not in my 4x games. Campaigns are NOT the reason I'm playing 4x games.

However, I wouldn't have anything against it, if it didn't take development time away from other stuff. I would simply not play it.