Discussion on Unit Upkeep cost and some concerning.

[fairtoki]

On latest Dev. Gameplay stream (Evil Toad). There are minor detail about units upkeep which different varies on Tiers.
Tier 1 - 8 gold
Tier 2 - 12 (11 with upkeep reduction on Watcher Rats)
Tier 3 - 20 (i'm assuming it is 18 on Fey because upkeep reduction)
Tier 4 - 30 mana + 3 Imperium (seen on mage bane)
Tier 5 - couldn't catch on Lost wizard.

The Upkeep different in Tiers seem massive compare to previous games. Which can be both good(in multiplayer) and bad(vs AI) thing. I like that higher tier unit cost Imperium upkeep.
What i'm concern is about single player against AI, As you known in AoW4 will have Cities limit for the first time so, if AI got cheated economy and Spam tier 4 units(like AoW3) it will be really hard to keep up with them.
In PF we can keep up with hardest AI cheated economy by either Rush or just build more settlements but you can't do that with city cap.

That's my concern, Just speculation and hope there are balance in term of AI :)

[~ Fabulous ~]

those imperium sounds like cosmite to me, maybe that will prevent t4 unit spam like in planetfall

[klaxas77]

I wouldnt be concerned about the balance until we actually get a chance to play.

[blackhand_lost]

In AoW it's 4-8-16-32, I don't see a massive difference here, The economy is scaled differently, that's it.
Are you seriously concerned you'll have so much trouble beating AI?

7 turns to construct the 1st building-that's more of a concern. AoW shouldn't convert to Endless Legend level of slow and boring

[fairtoki]

Originally posted by blackhand_lost:

In AoW it's 4-8-16-32, I don't see a massive difference here, The economy is scaled differently, that's it.
Are you seriously concerned you'll have so much trouble beating AI?

7 turns to construct the 1st building-that's more of a concern. AoW shouldn't convert to Endless Legend level of slow and boring

Yup, I'm concern about AI since i play mostly single-player. i like AI in PF more than AoW3.
also from the Dev play i think the game looks a lots faster with separate building and unit production.

[Gaius]

I feel like they need a way to keep armies in check a lot more now, because with the ability to draft units at the same time you develp city buildings you no longer have the opportunity cost. If the ukkeep was low, every faction would have dozens of full armies the whole game and it would drag wars a lot...