Score Victory

[JackerooSundown]

Why is a score victory even in the game? They don't tell us what actually effects the score, the AI cheats like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy and is always ahead even though I take city after city, win fight after fight. Its always human vs literally every AI so you can't press any offensive or you get ass blasted, and the AI cheat every 2 seconds to ♥♥♥♥ out countless tier V units while it takes so much effort, time, and prep to make them for me? Who the ♥♥♥♥ balanced this garbage?

[Terrkas]

You can just disable score victory (or win in time).

Scores are a bit complicated, like military takes your fights and army into account.

[Pantagruel]

Score victory exists to terminate games before they get absurdly long. Just finish the game before it's a factor.

[IDDQD]

I find it weird that it is on by default in a game focused on narrative.

Personally I always turn it off and I wish you could set it to always off.

[duane]

I am playing my first game with score victory turned off and it is the most fun I have had with this game in over 200 hours. Personally I will turn it off every time moving forward.

[Bonky]

Originally posted by duane:

I am playing my first game with score victory turned off and it is the most fun I have had with this game in over 200 hours. Personally I will turn it off every time moving forward.

I'm with you! I turned it off on my newest game, so much more fun!

[avenger711]

I don't understand how score works and during the game I've very few information about other players so I don't see any reasons for score victory to exist at all. Magic victory, expansion victory and seal victory is enough. If this thing would be removed this would make the game only better becasue of less unclear options the players have to disable.

[avenger711]

AI cheat every 2 seconds to ♥♥♥♥ out countless tier V units

Come on it's not so hard to beat the AI except you give it some combat advantage. But I don't like this idea because I want similar units be similar for all players.

[fja12856]

Add me to the list of people who turn it off. In fact I turn off all victory conditions and play military victory only.

[JackerooSundown]

I'm never having it on again, but to find out a mechanic is so bonkers bad is pretty rough. I was rather annoyed when I wrote this, it would be nice if anyone knew how the score system actually worked. I lost 2 points after taking an enemy city, it just doesn't make sense. I also think there should be an overtime if someone is literally 2 turns away from a magic victory, why even have the option if 150 is just the end? Should grey it out or something, anything! Its no longer an option so don't pretend it is. Basically you have 135 turns to get it or you get scored out? This is base game vanilla played as intended, its just annoying.

Sorry for my vent, thanks for coming to my TedTalk. You nerds are beautiful <3 Gonna try to not get ass blasted from 3 directions this time. Was proud I held out against the hordes of cheaty AI, but damn man that score garbage really tilted me. Never having score on again, should not even be in the damn game if its not explained in detail how score works. Just a bunch of reddit posts about how people THINK it works, nothing from the devs or anything anywhere.

[avenger711]

play military victory only.

You can abandon the game before that. The only reason to finish games is getting more pantheon points and may be some testing.

[CaptainChaos]

I'm sorry is there any information how score is calculated. I'm, playing the tutorial, the AI says its very easy (even though I set it to normal, not sure how that occurred) and I thought I was doing so well, I was WAY ahead of everyone else, and turns out I'm 3 of 3. My cities are all huge, I have more and more vassals than my opponents, thousands of manna, lots of gold, have no idea what's going on or why I am behind.

[Midas]

To give the game an arbitrary end point. I always have score victory turned off. Win or lose, it's always the least satisfying way to end the game. The only reason I can see it being justified is in a game where you're steamrolling the opponents on a huge map, and victory is just inevitable, but will still take dozens more turns to actually accomplish.

[Pantagruel]

Score victory exists to get people to be active and win before it arrives.

[Kasmir]

Originally posted by avenger711:

play military victory only.

You can abandon the game before that. The only reason to finish games is getting more pantheon points and may be some testing.

I also find it important to finish games to get Ascended Pantheon heroes which can be very fun to use in later games.

[Midas]

Originally posted by Pantagruel:

Score victory exists to get people to be active and win before it arrives.

Shame it doesn't tell you how to actually do that. You basically just have to look at the ambiguous unexplained scores, play as well as you can, and hope for the best.