Fastest way to earn Pantheon points?

[Puggly the Grey]

I previously had unlocked all the pantheon stuff, but it took meh 100+ hours, and now deh has added jus a ridiculous number of dem.

Do any helpful peeps know a relatively speedeh way to get points?

[PlutonArioch]

I don't like grinding, and don't care too much about the pantheon stuff, past some basics I have now (over 500 hours played 71/131 unlocks maybe 85 if I finish every game I got running), but here is what I would do if I wanted some quick points:

Preparation

• Start new game on a small map, with 9 players for little distance and max points
  
• Set world threat to passive so no infestations start to meddle
  
• Set everyone to human
  
• Select one slot to be your winning player (from now on called "WP"), I would not choose the first slot so you can see where everyone is immediately
  
• Enable Teams, and set everyone to the same team except WP
  
• (optional) Set handicap to Major Disadvantage for everyone except WP and Major Advantage for WP
  
• (optional) Handpick everyone's faction to make sure no one starts underground
  
• Start game

First turn

First look at the overview map and remember the positions of everyone (if you had a non-WP in the first slot). You will probably notice a gap in the pattern, that will be where WP is located, figure out the shortest path to hit everyone for when it is WPs turn.
For everyone except WP:

• Send leader into city
  
• Send everyone else outside your borders
  
• Select city and dismantle all defensive structures
  
• Skip rest of turn

For WP:

• Send your leaders army straight towards the first person to hit, don't bother with anything else.
  
• Skip turn

From then on until the end of the game, just keep skipping everyone's turn except WP's, in which you just go straight from capital to capital to besiege them (don't bother with siege projects) and two turns later autoresolve the battle. Then vassalize the city.

You could also choose reavers for WP's faction and get an extra siege project slot, which lets you besiege the cities for only one turn if you add headlong assault, which will hurt your army but it should be fine, if you somehow lose an autobattle, just retry it and you get to control both sides. You may then want to queue up vendor and other gold producing buildings and annex provinces with mines, so you don't run out of gold for siege projects.
This will save some turns, but I don't know if its worth the extra steps.
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I did try this, out of curiosity, to see if it would work. I got around 2000 xp, meaning 4 points, in a bit over 20 minutes. Depending on rng it may be around 20-30 minutes every time. I do not know how this stacks up against other grinding methods, as I said I don't like to grind so I don't usually do it unless its fun for some other reason. However seeing how I otherwise could get maybe 6-10 points for a 50hour campaign, it is pretty fast compared to playing normally, for me at least.

[Midas]

Take all those turn 50+ games you got bored of and didn't finish, and surrender on all of them.

[Puggly the Grey]

Tanks chu PlutonArioch, I will make sure to try dis as soon as I am able, before dese weirdo devs decide deh need to disable it like deh has every other effective technique.

[se05239]

Originally posted by PlutonArioch:

I don't like grinding, and don't care too much about the pantheon stuff, past some basics I have now (over 500 hours played 71/131 unlocks maybe 85 if I finish every game I got running), but here is what I would do if I wanted some quick points:

Preparation

• Start new game on a small map, with 9 players for little distance and max points
  
• Set world threat to passive so no infestations start to meddle
  
• Set everyone to human
  
• Select one slot to be your winning player (from now on called "WP"), I would not choose the first slot so you can see where everyone is immediately
  
• Enable Teams, and set everyone to the same team except WP
  
• (optional) Set handicap to Major Disadvantage for everyone except WP and Major Advantage for WP
  
• (optional) Handpick everyone's faction to make sure no one starts underground
  
• Start game

First turn

First look at the overview map and remember the positions of everyone (if you had a non-WP in the first slot). You will probably notice a gap in the pattern, that will be where WP is located, figure out the shortest path to hit everyone for when it is WPs turn.
For everyone except WP:

• Send leader into city
  
• Send everyone else outside your borders
  
• Select city and dismantle all defensive structures
  
• Skip rest of turn

For WP:

• Send your leaders army straight towards the first person to hit, don't bother with anything else.
  
• Skip turn

From then on until the end of the game, just keep skipping everyone's turn except WP's, in which you just go straight from capital to capital to besiege them (don't bother with siege projects) and two turns later autoresolve the battle. Then vassalize the city.

You could also choose reavers for WP's faction and get an extra siege project slot, which lets you besiege the cities for only one turn if you add headlong assault, which will hurt your army but it should be fine, if you somehow lose an autobattle, just retry it and you get to control both sides. You may then want to queue up vendor and other gold producing buildings and annex provinces with mines, so you don't run out of gold for siege projects.
This will save some turns, but I don't know if its worth the extra steps.
-------

I did try this, out of curiosity, to see if it would work. I got around 2000 xp, meaning 4 points, in a bit over 20 minutes. Depending on rng it may be around 20-30 minutes every time. I do not know how this stacks up against other grinding methods, as I said I don't like to grind so I don't usually do it unless its fun for some other reason. However seeing how I otherwise could get maybe 6-10 points for a 50hour campaign, it is pretty fast compared to playing normally, for me at least.

..Wait, you can play against yourself?

[PlutonArioch]

Originally posted by se05239:

..Wait, you can play against yourself?

Well, its hot seat. Meant for local multiplayer, but nothing is stopping you from playing it alone if you want to. It should be standard in turn based strategy games.

[se05239]

Originally posted by PlutonArioch:

Originally posted by se05239:

..Wait, you can play against yourself?

Well, its hot seat. Meant for local multiplayer, but nothing is stopping you from playing it alone if you want to. It should be standard in turn based strategy games.

Good to know.

[Puggly the Grey]

Originally posted by PlutonArioch:

Originally posted by se05239:

..Wait, you can play against yourself?

Well, it’s hot seat. Meant for local multiplayer, but nothing is stopping you from playing it alone if you want to. It should be standard in turn based strategy games.

HOLY SHOOBUS! FINALLY, someone else said it!

I’ve been sayin’ dat Hotseat mode should be a standard feature in turn-based strategy games fir years now.

I eben started a petition to get it added to Warhammer Total War 3, and the inclusion of Hotseat mode is teh only reason I bought AoW4/Planetfall.

[PlutonArioch]

Originally posted by Puggly the Grey:

I eben started a petition to get it added to Warhammer Total War 3, and the inclusion of Hotseat mode is teh only reason I bought AoW4/Planetfall. :donpug:

In total war the exclusion of hot seat is especially infuriating, since Medieval II: Total War did have it, but then they switched engines and just never bothered with it again. It even had a password lock so players could not peek into other players turns. It was great. You could play by (e)mail, without special servers for it, and even without needing internet on the PC you played on. I don't understand how any turn based strategy game came out after it without this functionality. It is such a simple concept and yet adds so much to a game.

Back in my day.... *old man rambling*
Anyways...

[Beytran70]

So, Puggly, we meet again... But yes, hotseat mode really is nice huh? ;)

[ssamgang 2]

In case you happen to have paid account on cheathappens they got a trainer that lets you unlock all of the pantheon in like 1 minute.

[se05239]

Originally posted by Puggly the Grey:

Originally posted by PlutonArioch:

Well, it’s hot seat. Meant for local multiplayer, but nothing is stopping you from playing it alone if you want to. It should be standard in turn based strategy games.

HOLY SHOOBUS! FINALLY, someone else said it!

I’ve been sayin’ dat Hotseat mode should be a standard feature in turn-based strategy games fir years now. :PugLevi:

I eben started a petition to get it added to Warhammer Total War 3, and the inclusion of Hotseat mode is teh only reason I bought AoW4/Planetfall. :donpug:

I was thinking that I maybe could use it to finally get that "I want to break free" achievement (become a vassal and end vassalage) since the game just ends if you become a vassal to an AI.. but it seems that didn't work either. Shame.

[Puggly the Grey]

Originally posted by se05239:

Originally posted by Puggly the Grey:

HOLY SHOOBUS! FINALLY, someone else said it!

I’ve been sayin’ dat Hotseat mode should be a standard feature in turn-based strategy games fir years now.

I eben started a petition to get it added to Warhammer Total War 3, and the inclusion of Hotseat mode is teh only reason I bought AoW4/Planetfall.

I was thinking that I maybe could use it to finally get that "I want to break free" achievement (become a vassal and end vassalage) since the game just ends if you become a vassal to an AI.. but it seems that didn't work either. Shame.

Yeah, teh devs are big meanies dat keep intentionally removin’ stuff dat makes the game fun.

[Warlord]

There a mod that unlocks all the pantheon? I don't care for achievements.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

I find my fasted way to farm is just replaying valley of wonders(Story mission 1) over and over again trying different builds.
The map seems to have triggers that stop yaka from being able to win and stops sundren from being able to declare war on you.
You can farm a lot of point just killing yaka over and over again while checking out builds you like.

[Puggly the Grey]

Originally posted by Warlord:

There a mod that unlocks all the pantheon? I don't care for achievements.

I heard der was one, allegedly, but teh devs nuked it into the dirt.