I'm confused about hero recruitment

[snuggleform]

What exactly causes new heroes to show up in your roster? There are several incomplete hypotheses I have but I was forced to discard each of them

- I first thought, they are simply added to your roster over time. This is clearly not true, because I had games where at turn 40 I had more heroes available than I did at turn 50

- I then thought, it has to do with the level of your Ruler. But this is also not true, because I've had games where I focused on leveling up my Ruler super fast and the available heroes were still level 3.

- I was further confused by when I played a map with no free cities, and then I was only ever offered 2 or 3 heroes at a time for the whole duration of the game, and they were always level 1. So I suspect the heroes available have something to do with Free Cities or Vassals.

The one factor I am sure about is that sometimes you get random events that add heroes that come from your Pantheon, or there are certain story-driven events in story realms. I do not wish to discuss these factors I just mentioned further because I understand them. I'm missing the bigger picture though. Is there some complicated equation that involves time, your ruler level, free cities, or is it really just one of those and I didn't understand it properly?

The root question can be re-expressed in this way: How exactly can I trigger higher level heroes to be available in my pool reliably?

[jesusjr]

Only thing I know is more free cities you are friendly with or vassalized will give you their race heroes who almost always a higher level than your basic race heroes.

[Noble Ten]

I notice the heros you get dont reshufffle either over time. So if your looking for heros with useful traits.. bad luck.
Also noticed, that herso coming from your vassal, share the same last name as the city leader. Asif they are his sons/daughters.

[snuggleform]

I try not to sweat the traits. I've also realized it's hard or impossible to reroll traits and there are so many traits that I just look for hero level at this point.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by snuggleform:

I'm confused about hero recruitment
What exactly causes new heroes to show up in your roster? There are several incomplete hypotheses I have but I was forced to discard each of them

- I first thought, they are simply added to your roster over time. This is clearly not true, because I had games where at turn 40 I had more heroes available than I did at turn 50

- I then thought, it has to do with the level of your Ruler. But this is also not true, because I've had games where I focused on leveling up my Ruler super fast and the available heroes were still level 3.

- I was further confused by when I played a map with no free cities, and then I was only ever offered 2 or 3 heroes at a time for the whole duration of the game, and they were always level 1. So I suspect the heroes available have something to do with Free Cities or Vassals.

The one factor I am sure about is that sometimes you get random events that add heroes that come from your Pantheon, or there are certain story-driven events in story realms. I do not wish to discuss these factors I just mentioned further because I understand them. I'm missing the bigger picture though. Is there some complicated equation that involves time, your ruler level, free cities, or is it really just one of those and I didn't understand it properly?

The root question can be re-expressed in this way: How exactly can I trigger higher level heroes to be available in my pool reliably?

No idea about some "bigger equoation".

Two heroes per city under your control, including vassals, plus the mentioned event heroes obtained via Ancient Wonders and Pantheon join at turn 1.

[Chthonic Guardian]

I thought it was tied to when your hero cap went up with a new city coming into the fold of your empire.
That is update your pool and adds a hero or 2 with more currently appropriate level.

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Two heroes per city under your control, including vassals, plus the mentioned event heroes obtained via Ancient Wonders and Pantheon join at turn 1.

If the UI would allow showing the entire hero queue, i could prove via screenshot that this isn't working.


Example in my ongoing game, i have the original neighbor vassal of my own faction.

So this should give me 4 heroes of my own race and faction, right?



Well that isn't the case, there is only 1 "unaffiliated" and 1 from the original vassal.
One has the "unstable" trait with -40hp, the other the animal handler. So both are useless.

Instead there are 4 other heroes from 2 random vassals, which i have absolutely no use for because they don't have my racial transformations and lack my racial traits, most relevantly Overwhelm Tactics.



Already made a thread about this, random free city heroes clogging up the queue.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1669000/discussions/0/3845556684660133825/

[Chthonic Guardian]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Two heroes per city under your control, including vassals, plus the mentioned event heroes obtained via Ancient Wonders and Pantheon join at turn 1.

If the UI would allow showing the entire hero queue, i could prove via screenshot that this isn't working.


Example in my ongoing game, i have the original neighbor vassal of my own faction.

So this should give me 4 heroes of my own race and faction, right?



Well that isn't the case, there is only 1 "unaffiliated" and 1 from the original vassal.
One has the "unstable" trait with -40hp, the other the animal handler. So both are useless.

Instead there are 4 other heroes from 2 random vassals, which i have absolutely no use for because they don't have my racial transformations and lack my racial traits, most relevantly Overwhelm Tactics.



Already made a thread about this, random free city heroes clogging up the queue.

Yeah, I wish you could dismiss hero candidates from the pools.

Probably going to need some mods for heroes.

[Ichthyic]

Originally posted by Noble Ten:

I notice the heros you get dont reshufffle either over time. So if your looking for heros with useful traits.. bad luck.
Also noticed, that herso coming from your vassal, share the same last name as the city leader. Asif they are his sons/daughters.

this is not correct. EVERY game I have played has had new heroes cycle in over time. it takes a while, but it does happen. Have you tried actually buying a hero, and then just killing it? force cycle.