how do you trigger those additional racial trait events?

[snuggleform]

Sometimes you'll get prompts like do you want your race to be gifted with mark of the dove or mark of the hoarder, a racial trait that scales with your population but has some kind of drawback to it. I suspect it has something to generally do with your actions but I was wondering what the details of it are. Is there a way to increase the likelihood of it happening?

[Midas]

It seems pretty random to me. Most recent one I got was the mana one, and it was on a faction with 0 astral affinity and only like 1200 mana in storage at the time it happened. Wasn't a particularly spellcaster-heavy build, either. Chaos/Nature barbarian orcs. I can't think of any particular reason why I would have triggered a mana-focused one in particular over other possibilities.

[Wlerin]

Some of them (particularly mana/gold) do seem based on either the amount of that resource you have stored or how much you're making per turn.

[Vevvev]

I noticed when I get 1,000 mana the trait for the reduced mana income but increased stability comes up.

If you haven't been at war in a while the Mark of the Dove will come up to. Inversely if you're waging war all the time the inverse will pop up.

They seem directly tied to your actions, or lack of actions, in a game.

[snuggleform]

I'm getting super confused. The last 2 games I've played, I have been offered no racial traits whatsoever, but I've had enormous stores of gold and mana (over 4k each) for many turns and nothing happens. I feel like the trigger must be pretty specific. I end the game by turn 80 or so and I get a lot of stuff done, so I wonder I managed to not get offered anything.

You know what, I just had an idea - maybe it has to do with finishing quests. There is some kind of text I remember when you do quests it increases relations with your own race, and I suspect if you increase it high enough that is what triggers it. Admittedly could be wrong but I also remember another piece of text in the event that offers you the racial trait it says something about the keepers of the race approach you and ask you what you think, so maybe it's doing quests that explains it? It might explain it; in the last 2 games I played I've only done 1 or 2 quests and maybe you have to do like 3 or 4.

[Narandia]

yeah there is simply a lot of rng in the mix in general. I've had games with these never coming up, and games where it happened more than twice (meaning I would've needed to ditch an existing trait for a new one). I've even had cases of reloading an earlier turn for other reasons and the event being replaced with something else, so these are simply in the pool of options for any kind of random event (free city quests, festivals etc).
If it does roll a destiny trait event, the type you get offered does seem to be picked based on current circumstances like mentioned, though.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by snuggleform:

how do you trigger those additional racial trait events?
Sometimes you'll get prompts like do you want your race to be gifted with mark of the dove or mark of the hoarder, a racial trait that scales with your population but has some kind of drawback to it. I suspect it has something to generally do with your actions but I was wondering what the details of it are. Is there a way to increase the likelihood of it happening?

Mark of the Hoard - Have 1000 or more stored Resource gold
Mark of the Conflux - Have 1000 or more stored Resource mana
Mark of the Dove - No battles for 5 turns while not being at war
Mark of the Owl - High knowledge income and at least 3 ancient wonders
Mark of the Otter - Have at least 5 animal units, which must make up at least 25% of your total units.
Mark of the Tower - Have high Imperium and at most 3 cities, at least one of which is tier 4.

Something like that.
Not enough time to look it up again with modding tools before I need to head out.

[snuggleform]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by snuggleform:

how do you trigger those additional racial trait events?
Sometimes you'll get prompts like do you want your race to be gifted with mark of the dove or mark of the hoarder, a racial trait that scales with your population but has some kind of drawback to it. I suspect it has something to generally do with your actions but I was wondering what the details of it are. Is there a way to increase the likelihood of it happening?

Mark of the Hoard - Have 1000 or more stored Resource gold
Mark of the Conflux - Have 1000 or more stored Resource mana
Mark of the Dove - No battles for 5 turns while not being at war
Mark of the Owl - High knowledge income and at least 3 ancient wonders
Mark of the Otter - Have at least 5 animal units, which must make up at least 25% of your total units.
Mark of the Tower - Have high Imperium and at most 3 cities, at least one of which is tier 4.

Something like that.
Not enough time to look it up again with modding tools before I need to head out.

Very interest.

[jclovis3]

See https://minionsart.github.io/aow4db/HTML/DestinyTraits.html for list of traits and triggers. I have the Mark of the Owl trait and over 1980 mana but can't seem to trigger the Mark of the Conflux so I'm wondering if you might be limited to just one trait.

[Terrkas]

Originally posted by Vevvev:

I noticed when I get 1,000 mana the trait for the reduced mana income but increased stability comes up.

If you haven't been at war in a while the Mark of the Dove will come up to. Inversely if you're waging war all the time the inverse will pop up.

They seem directly tied to your actions, or lack of actions, in a game.

I got the option to get mark of the dove in story realm 3 while playing chosen destroyers.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2977725078

Here is my screenshot.