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Lord Inoch May 7, 2023 @ 1:41am
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Water elemental resistant to fire?????
I just had battle with group of water elementals on water and found out that they are vulnerable to frost and 8 POINTS RESISTANT to fire? wtf is this nonsense?
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Mlohava Kyfla May 7, 2023 @ 1:43am 
Makes sense how you gonna burn the water, you will find out tho that water elementals are vulnerable to electricity
Originally posted by Mlohava Kyfla:
Makes sense how you gonna burn the water, you will find out tho that water elementals are vulnerable to electricity
Uh what?
Buring water makes it steam.



Originally posted by Lord Inoch:
I just had battle with group of water elementals on water and found out that they are vulnerable to frost and 8 POINTS RESISTANT to fire? wtf is this nonsense?
That looks like a wierd choice.
If anything they shoud both do extra damage to eachother for being eachothers counter part.
Mlohava Kyfla May 7, 2023 @ 1:51am 
It's not fire that counters water but the other way around.
Originally posted by Mlohava Kyfla:
It's not fire that counters water but the other way around.
Wierd choice.
dontplease May 7, 2023 @ 1:55am 
Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:
Originally posted by Mlohava Kyfla:
It's not fire that counters water but the other way around.
Wierd choice.

weird bloist
Doomi May 7, 2023 @ 2:49am 
Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:
Originally posted by Mlohava Kyfla:
It's not fire that counters water but the other way around.
Wierd choice.

why do you think we use water to stop fires
in what world is this a weird choice, it's just how water works
Butcher May 7, 2023 @ 2:52am 
Originally posted by Doomi:
Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:
Wierd choice.

why do you think we use water to stop fires
in what world is this a weird choice, it's just how water works
Water elemental should also boil, spreading innards all over the place.
Orion Invictus May 7, 2023 @ 2:57am 
Originally posted by Doomi:
Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:
Wierd choice.

why do you think we use water to stop fires
in what world is this a weird choice, it's just how water works
Water boils. And when water can't stop a fire, firefighters use... fire. So by your logic, fire>water.
suejak May 7, 2023 @ 3:02am 
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When there is a flood, they call the floodfighters to shoot flamethrowers at it.
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Cpt Obvious May 7, 2023 @ 3:04am 
Water > Fire kiddo. Ice > Water. Don't they teach elements 101 in school anymore?
F.O.A.M May 7, 2023 @ 3:21am 
well there are only 2 options when it comes to water and fire, they both counter each other or water counters fire. most games i have played does water counters fire but i have seen a couple do both ways
Ovomaltine May 7, 2023 @ 3:22am 
1) not all fire are put down with water. It depend of the temperature and the element that is burning.
2) Heat vaporise water, not fire proper. It make sense that water beat fire and not the orther way around. You would need a massive, VERY massive fire, extremly hot (like when metal is burning) to instantlly vaporise large quantity of water.

In a normal scenario, if you would use a flame-thrower direct at a swimmingpool for exemple, you will not vaporise a lot of water. Because the heat will mostly disperse into the air. thus not impacting much of the water.



And a bit of a kitche safety advice, just in case for the "water beat fire duh!" : if one day, a pot with oil in it catch fire while you are cooking, DO NOT use water to put it down. You will create an explosion...
Last edited by Ovomaltine; May 7, 2023 @ 3:47am
Orion Invictus May 7, 2023 @ 3:27am 
Originally posted by Ovomaltine:
1) not all fire ar put down with water. It depend of the temperature and the element that is burning.
2) Heat vaporise water, not fire proper. It make sense that water beat fire and not the orther way around. You would need a massive, VERY massive fire, extremly hot (like when metal is burning) to instantlly vaporise large quantity of water.

In a normal scenario, if you would use a flame-thrower direct at a swimmingpool for exemple, you will not vaporise a lot of water. Because the heat will mostly disperse into the air. thus not impacting much of the water.



And a bit of a kitche safety advice, just in case for the "water beat fire duh!" : if one day, a pot with oil in it catch fire while you are cooking, DO NOT use water to put it down. You will create an explosion...
A flamethrower isn't comparable to magic, though. With magic, all the energy is being focused on that one target. It should be that fire and water are weak to each other, IMO, and the same with all other opposites.
Ovomaltine May 7, 2023 @ 3:38am 
With magic you can do whatever the hell you want...That's why you have so many magical system in differents games, book, movies, etc...

The Elemental Magic system is typically inspired by real environnement. This system take the "commonly known" strenght and weakness of those elements as rules for balancing the system.

If you choose to ignore completely those rules "because magic can focus more", then the whole system would be void. Because in that case you could beat anything with fire :
If hot enough with only magic as fuel, fire will destroy anything...forest, turning the ground into lava, melting metal, even rendering the atmosphere unbreathable...

All others elemental magic would be useless. Not only this would be incoherent, but we would be raging "the game is not balanced, fire is OP"
Last edited by Ovomaltine; May 7, 2023 @ 3:38am
dolby May 7, 2023 @ 3:44am 
Originally posted by suejak:
When there is a flood, they call the floodfighters to shoot flamethrowers at it.
we have a winer lol
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