Age of Wonders 4

Age of Wonders 4

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MrFusion May 4, 2023 @ 10:52pm
No Pantheon XP after win
When I started the game and eventually understood it, i wanted to surrender to get some points - but I didn't get anything.
SO I played it out till the end, but STILL did not get any points.

I played the starter map, did not cheat, and still no points after a military victory.
Why?
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Rainnd May 4, 2023 @ 11:00pm 
I believe if you finish a game, even if you surrender, that game gets marked as no longer available for points/ascension.
KirGeo May 4, 2023 @ 11:07pm 
If you surrender any time in the game all progress mage in that game campaign is lost.
That sucks I was 40 turns into my first game and hit surrender just trying to go to the main menu because the Exit Game made me think it would close out of the game... so now there isn't much reason to finish it?
Surrendering should get you points unless you haven't done anything until that point. The only case where you don't get any points at all is when you used console commands.
Garatgh Deloi May 5, 2023 @ 8:13am 
Not 100% sure on this, but i think it works like this:
If you finished a campaign/game (by surrendering for example) then that game/campaign is flagged as completed so loading a save from that same campaign/game wont get you anything even if you then finish it.
Azunai May 5, 2023 @ 8:23am 
Guess you can only turn in any given game once. Otherwise you could just reload the last turn of a successful run and win the same map over and over to max out Pantheon XP in no time.
Last edited by Azunai; May 5, 2023 @ 8:24am
Originally posted by Azunai:
Guess you can only turn in any given game once. Otherwise you could just reload the last turn of a successful run and win the same map over and over to max out Pantheon XP in no time.
I totally get that. A little warning pop up would have been nice though!
MrFusion May 5, 2023 @ 1:22pm 
Originally posted by Azunai:
Guess you can only turn in any given game once. Otherwise you could just reload the last turn of a successful run and win the same map over and over to max out Pantheon XP in no time.

Except I didn't even get the point I've had so far... I got nothing.
Ludovin May 6, 2023 @ 4:11am 
Same here. Finished with a character after surrendering 15 turns on launch. Surrendering to main menu has been standard in Strategy games for years. The fact that this game locks that character from progression and ascension if you do that really, really sucks.
Originally posted by Ludovin:
Same here. Finished with a character after surrendering 15 turns on launch. Surrendering to main menu has been standard in Strategy games for years. The fact that this game locks that character from progression and ascension if you do that really, really sucks.
They really just need a warning pop-up that tells new players, "You will not be able to progress this character/save any further or earn Pantheon XP if you Surrender. Do you wish to continue?"
VoiD May 6, 2023 @ 4:51pm 
If you don't mind being exploity

Start a new game in a custom coastal map, 1 vs 1, set all your units to auto explore, start spamming skip turn, find the AI, declare war and ask to become a vassal in the same turn.

If they accept that's 500 XP sometimes by turn 2 of the game.
MagnusGrey May 6, 2023 @ 4:53pm 
I earned xp immediately after surrendering.
Raelic May 6, 2023 @ 4:53pm 
Originally posted by MrFusion:
When I started the game and eventually understood it, i wanted to surrender to get some points - but I didn't get anything.
SO I played it out till the end, but STILL did not get any points.

I played the starter map, did not cheat, and still no points after a military victory.
Why?
I went straight through to a military victory in like 30 turns and got 1 level only. From level 1 to 2.

Then I went and tried an expansive victory and took nearly the whole map except for the last area, which I razed. I would have got the expansive victory too had I known an army is summoned when you light the beacons. I summoned a God and it drained my magic points. I just military victory'd that one for fear of missing the affinity achievement.

But that run gave me like 6 levels. I think I was near turn 200.
MrFusion May 7, 2023 @ 3:03am 
Originally posted by MagnusGrey:
I earned xp immediately after surrendering.

Well now I'm just baffled...
The Pantheon system really needs some more explaining I guess
Jon May 7, 2023 @ 1:12pm 
Game devs need to have a pop-up or something that lets players know that they're no loger getting any exp or better yet having something that shows your levels of xp i did like others said surrendered to get an idea on how i was doing, reloaded in, and 12 hrs later got delivered the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
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Date Posted: May 4, 2023 @ 10:52pm
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