Is it zerging all the AI does?

[Terminal Velocity]

I played the 1st story mission and got past it, but I did notice the AI is prone to zerging. Zero strategy, just throw in absolutely everything hoping to win it via superior numbers and battle score.

So Im playing the Nimue mission now, and I just managed to catch Nimue and a 2nd army, with 4 armies of my own. It was a balanced battle, but I had greater numbers and greater battle score. When i defeated her clicked "end turn", all the other armies have immediately rushed me and engaged me - so I have a wounded, low HP 1200/1300 group of troops, against several armies totalling 2400 points.

Absolutely zero strategy. AI Just mass produces like 4000+ points across several armies, moves around the map as a group, and then throws them all at the player.

So is the only strategy to zerg back and throw superior numbers to the AI? Im going to have to wait a million turns to raise armies worth 5000 points, and then the pain of moving them one by one, all together, across the entire map, just to zerg-rush the AI.

[Sir Tartare]

AI cheat their economy for sure on mission 2 they have more than 20 stacks of tier 1-2 and i with the same amount of cities cant muster more than 6 stacks of tier 1-2.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Yep.
The game only has one strategy.
Zerg or be zerged.

[Eldrin]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Yep.
The game only has one strategy.
Zerg or be zerged.

Not really i play on hard and the AI can zerg me all they want but it does not matter when on the battlefield 18vs18 i just mop the floor with them using strategy.

I had Ai sent 6 stacks of 18 units into my 18 units over 4 turns and i beat them all, losing only 1 unit while the rest very near dead.

Sometimes the zerg does feel like it gets out of control, but with out that i would just mop the floor with all AIs very fast.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Originally posted by Eldrin:

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Yep.
The game only has one strategy.
Zerg or be zerged.

Not really i play on hard and the AI can zerg me all they want but it does not matter when on the battlefield 18vs18 i just mop the floor with them using strategy.

I had Ai sent 6 stacks of 18 units into my 18 units over 4 turns and i beat them all, losing only 1 unit while the rest very near dead.

Sometimes the zerg does feel like it gets out of control, but with out that i would just mop the floor with all AIs very fast.

Yeah sure you can but doesnt it get boring to repeatly smack down the zerg?

[⎝Wyrd Deofol⎠]

Originally posted by Sir Tartare:

AI cheat their economy for sure on mission 2 they have more than 20 stacks of tier 1-2 and i with the same amount of cities cant muster more than 6 stacks of tier 1-2.

A dev told us that the ai doesn't cheat but it gets discounts.
Not completely the same.

[Veg]

this is AOW, always be making units or you die. Theres lovely little dungeons and stuff all over the map but you better be damn sure a death stack isnt around the corner waiting to clap you after you come out of one.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Originally posted by ⎝Apostate⎠:

A dev told us that the ai doesn't cheat but it gets discounts.
Not completely the same.

Sounds like cheats to me.

[Eldrin]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Originally posted by Eldrin:

Not really i play on hard and the AI can zerg me all they want but it does not matter when on the battlefield 18vs18 i just mop the floor with them using strategy.

I had Ai sent 6 stacks of 18 units into my 18 units over 4 turns and i beat them all, losing only 1 unit while the rest very near dead.

Sometimes the zerg does feel like it gets out of control, but with out that i would just mop the floor with all AIs very fast.

Yeah sure you can but doesnt it get boring to repeatly smack down the zerg?

It did to a point, but thats better then just rolling over the AI like it is a joke. In 4x games you have to give AI insane advantages so it has 2-3x more military then you which you have to defeat by being smarter or it just becomes too easy.

[Terminal Velocity]

But you still roll them anyways. Atm Im slowly building Tier IV units while I have parked my 4 armies just outside the trigger reach of the Nimue AI. So the AI is just waiting... and waiting ... I will eventually have enough power to take them on.

Im not even sure if the AI ever attacks, at least it does not look like it in the story missions. Im also near a Tier 5 Tome magic victory, so I may not even have time to build several armies of Tier IV units before I get the win ...

[badger vortex]

High tier units + AoE spells >>> zerg swarm, there are plenty of tier 3+ units (mostly ranged) that can turn the tables on much larger ai armies. It's not quite as ridiculous as AoW 3 in terms of power difference but it's still very noticeable

[Dynamo Rex (mrrexplorer)]

Originally posted by Sir Tartare:

AI cheat their economy for sure on mission 2 they have more than 20 stacks of tier 1-2 and i with the same amount of cities cant muster more than 6 stacks of tier 1-2.

Yeah is crazy, to see, when i start the game and in the turn 5 they have all the Modifiqueers Unit Magic IN ALL UNITS. IN A RANDOM MAP. I mean, for the love of good, they just spam, proyectile and mages units.

All my victorys are because i use counter artillery magic, cavalery of Dark Knigths (they are broken like hell in wolfs) or just make a ``Pyramide Pig´´ with my berserkers, overfused and teleport someone to the archers, they die for control zone in the next turn because my charge make they try to run overtime.

And i always starting losing and always win in the end (except my first match) because the IA is so stupid, who they simply over and over again spam wizards and proyectiles troops, they never use cavalery, just use dragons or broken units for that. The Most funny is a win for that always make the same strategy, three or two melee figthers, a bunch of archers and mages with fliying units. And i always counter with cavalery, heroes and magic artillery.

And they are so much stupid and ganky who just throw all to my heroes.....when they have invincible or the path of damage and their heroes die because always left they alone to the reach of my magic artillery.

Is just laughlable XD.

[Biff]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Yep.
The game only has one strategy.
Zerg or be zerged.

This has not been my experience at all.

[Klutch]

The ai seems really formidable in this game, I've been having a great time not winning all the time, the losses aren't super punishing so you can keep trying without save scumming... I love it