Age of Wonders 4

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Dillet May 4, 2023 @ 12:21am
Necromancy. Rise dead after battle.
I find it wildly weird that chaos talents allow me to get a tire 1 unit with a 50% chance after combat, while necromancy doesn't have that mechanic.
So when i am оrc warchief I can create an army behind enemy lines, and when i am necromancer i cant ))))))))))
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BigJ May 4, 2023 @ 12:24am 
They seem to hate snowballing by fighting small battles, so after battle effects are mostly gone.

Poor necromancy got shafted till mid game.
fiendishdevil May 4, 2023 @ 12:25am 
If you grind Pantheon you can auto start with Raise Dead on your hero with the Necromancer Crown origin. Other than that, like BigJ said, necromancy doesn't really kick in till T2/T3.
Terrkas May 4, 2023 @ 12:26am 
Originally posted by BigJ:
They seem to hate snowballing by fighting small battles, so after battle effects are mostly gone.

Poor necromancy got shafted till mid game.

To be fair, getting free units each battle was quite op in 3 and SM.
BigJ May 4, 2023 @ 12:27am 
Originally posted by Terrkas:
Originally posted by BigJ:
They seem to hate snowballing by fighting small battles, so after battle effects are mostly gone.

Poor necromancy got shafted till mid game.

To be fair, getting free units each battle was quite op in 3 and SM.
Currently barbarian cultures or culturees with chaos do this. It's why the turn 14 rush is strong later, you snowball out of control.
Dillet May 4, 2023 @ 12:42am 
This decision is very strange precisely because of the chaos. Chaos has what was taken from the necromancers, which makes the whole situation absurd )

Moreover, the mechanics of collecting a golem from skeletons hints that such mechanics once existed. Because now there is no difference whether you build a golem in the city at once or make two skeletons and a spell. This is so and so - 30 souls.
Last edited by Dillet; May 4, 2023 @ 12:45am
Malaficus Shaikan May 4, 2023 @ 12:47am 
Welcome to modern game design.
Where fun isnt allowed.
Only multiplayer balance.
Last edited by Malaficus Shaikan; May 4, 2023 @ 12:47am
Jaeger May 4, 2023 @ 1:26am 
It's...weird and kind of annoying, yeah. I understand that they want to mitigate how hard you can snowball by raising dead units or keeping mind controlled ones after battle, but it feels *off* that necromancy can't reinforce that way.

It *might* be justified from a balance standpoint, given all the ways necromancy can raise and exploit or buff undead during combat, though. Adding on the ability to automatically get loads of skeletons that can be fused into T2 bone golems might have been too much to handle.
Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:
Welcome to modern game design.
Where fun isnt allowed.
Only multiplayer balance.

Basically, I miss the old days when you just had limited multiplayer.
Where Single Player and Co-Op was the focus of most games.
Malaficus Shaikan May 4, 2023 @ 1:30am 
Originally posted by Jaeger:
It's...weird and kind of annoying, yeah. I understand that they want to mitigate how hard you can snowball by raising dead units or keeping mind controlled ones after battle, but it feels *off* that necromancy can't reinforce that way.

It *might* be justified from a balance standpoint, given all the ways necromancy can raise and exploit or buff undead during combat, though. Adding on the ability to automatically get loads of skeletons that can be fused into T2 bone golems might have been too much to handle.
Ow for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake.
This is why we cannont have nice things.
♥♥♥♥ multiplayer balance.
I want to build an army using bards and necromancy.
Dillet May 4, 2023 @ 1:43am 
Thank you friends, it's so nice to understand that your thoughts about the ongoing murder of fun are shared by other people.
andymansour May 4, 2023 @ 2:19am 
Mods can fix many sins. If you look in the workshop there is someone working on an overhaul mod already!
Dillet May 4, 2023 @ 3:20am 
pls do mod! )
Taritu May 4, 2023 @ 4:22am 
Eh, honestly, I keep winding up with significant money problems when I play chaos with that ability. Still trying to figure out how to manage my gold economy to handle unit expansion.
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Date Posted: May 4, 2023 @ 12:21am
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