Is there a way to abandon a province?

[Meridas]

I am looking for a way to abandon some of the provinces my city acquired in the early game because I can't convert them to a province improvement I need (e.g. Conduit). However I couldn't find way to do it, nor I find it mentioned anywhere.

[⎝Wyrd Deofol⎠]

You can change what you have built in a province. I havent found a way to abandon one.

[Meridas]

I know that, but some provinces don't have the options you need like mana (conduit) or research. That's why I wanted to abandon provinces with farms/forests for provinces with mana

[Gaius]

You can raze or release as a vassa. Click in the province, then the gear icon and those options appear.

Oh wait, I was thinking about cities. Provinces I don't think can be abandoned, they can be reformed tough.

[Moorgoth]

I have not been able to try it yet, but there is a spell up in the tier IV Materium Tome of the Crucible called Pyroclastic Eruption that may work for this. It may not work for your own province, but the description does not say "enemy province". Also, make sure none of your units are there because the spell damages units too.

[Midas]

Yeah, I've seen nothing for this. It's a shame, because in planetfall you could release sectors as outposts. The only other thing I've seen is that if you have a sector that is on the border of another city, you can release that sector to them if they have the population to take it.

[⎝Wyrd Deofol⎠]

Why would you leave a province?

[Lepakko]

Originally posted by ⎝Apostate⎠:

Why would you leave a province?

There are situation where you blocked room to grow for city. Specially when there is no room later part of game. If you be able transfer ownership to your other city. It would let that city grow again. Sometimes you can open path by terraforming mountains, but it be nice to do it without magic too.

[Kestral]

You can transfer a province to another city, but only if the city you are transferring to has an extra population available to occupy the province and you own both cities (doesn't work with vassals). The transfer option will appear in the same place where you can change the province building type, and takes 1 turn to complete.


So if city A is in a western corner without room, and city B is east of city A and has room to grow further east, then when A grows you can transfer a province from B to A, which takes 1 turn. The next turn, city B will have a free population from losing that province and can settle another empty province.

[Kurosawa0]

Special Province Improvements seem to ignore province type to a degree. For example, you can build a Bazaar of Wonders (counts as a mine) on grassland (farm only province).
You should experiment a bit with the unlocked special province improvements you get from your tomes to see if you cannot build conduits that way. The Tome of Sanctuary for example (Order T3) gives you a Sanctuary Province Improvement. It is a Conduit and Spelljammer at the same time and you can build it on rocky / grassland / forest. I think only provinces that can only build a hut cannot be used. So just get any terraforming spell and you'll be fine.

But to Answer your original question. I do not think that there currently is a way to abandon a province, other than razing the city.

[RodHull]

Yeah it should be added, its sometimes worthwhile to have an early province you may later have no use for.

I suppose it would have to come with some city debuff to happiness, population or both as relocating a whole chunk of your people on a whim is pretty drastic. But the option should exist.

[djheat]

It wouldn't surprise me if it was a gameplay related choice to avoid people specializing in growth provinces then switching to production and resource provinces later, but I agree it would be nice if there was some option to drop a real clunker of a province, maybe with a restrictive cooldown or some other penalty to discourage overuse

[⎝Wyrd Deofol⎠]

Originally posted by djheat:

It wouldn't surprise me if it was a gameplay related choice to avoid people specializing in growth provinces then switching to production and resource provinces later,

You do know you can do that right? You can change a province on the fly. Click on the province and change to something else. I do it all the time.
Make sure you have the building selected.

[⎝Wyrd Deofol⎠]

Originally posted by Brother JO:

I am looking for a way to abandon some of the provinces my city acquired in the early game because I can't convert them to a province improvement I need (e.g. Conduit). However I couldn't find way to do it, nor I find it mentioned anywhere.

Click on the province building and change it to what you like.

[Holyvision]

Originally posted by ⎝Apostate⎠:

Originally posted by Brother JO:

I am looking for a way to abandon some of the provinces my city acquired in the early game because I can't convert them to a province improvement I need (e.g. Conduit). However I couldn't find way to do it, nor I find it mentioned anywhere.

Click on the province building and change it to what you like.

That's not what they are saying. They want to drop ownership of certain areas to claim different ones instead.

I have not found a way to do this. It's also aggravating you cannot relocate your harbor after it auto-places.

[⎝Wyrd Deofol⎠]

Originally posted by Holyvision:

Originally posted by ⎝Apostate⎠:

Click on the province building and change it to what you like.

That's not what they are saying. They want to drop ownership of certain areas to claim different ones instead.

I have not found a way to do this. It's also aggravating you cannot relocate your harbor after it auto-places.

Ah gotcha, must be a language barrier. No you can't do that.