Is anyone else only fighting manually 1% of the time?

[Make clash permanent]

I'm probably taking less risks than the average player when it comes to starting battles when I'm not in an obvious advantage but so does the AI, but the odds are that I'm ever fighting a battle worth going manual for is rare.

Either I'm running around with my doom stack 2 or 3 times the size of the next army OR I can see I have no chance and don't take the fight.

I'll only go manual if the "army power?" is within 10-15% of each other either way.

I actually really enjoy the wonder fights since it forces an equal'ish fight and there's less units to micro.

[Leto]

playing manually makes a huge difference, you can avoid damage and do several battles a turn, very important early on, you don't want to spend turns waiting to heal

[Ichthyic]

I like to micromanage who gets the xp for a kill, and also who gets permanently mind controlled as an extra unit or hero, so I MOSTLY do manual combats. Only when I simply do not care who gets xp (usually because everybody is maxed out already) will I auto. And yes, it can get tedious on big maps, but this was always the case with every 4x4 ever.

[sandman25dcsss]

Originally posted by Ichthyic:

I like to micromanage who gets the xp for a kill, and also who gets permanently mind controlled as an extra unit or hero, so I MOSTLY do manual combats. Only when I simply do not care who gets xp (usually because everybody is maxed out already) will I auto. And yes, it can get tedious on big maps, but this was always the case with every 4x4 ever.

XP is shared evenly, it does not matter who kills.

[aclyte]

I always play auto and retry if lose too much (even 1 unit early game may be too much and even losing 10 units end-game could be ok).
And i LOVE it - forcing yourself to play every battle manually would bore you extremely fast.
And here i can manually play only the toughest battles where AI can't handle the odds.

[aclyte]

Originally posted by Ichthyic:

I like to micromanage who gets the xp for a kill, and also who gets permanently mind controlled as an extra unit or hero, so I MOSTLY do manual combats. Only when I simply do not care who gets xp (usually because everybody is maxed out already) will I auto. And yes, it can get tedious on big maps, but this was always the case with every 4x4 ever.

as i know, in AoW4 all units get the same amount of XP no matter who made killing blow (like in previous AoW titles) - devs made it to cut off this micromanagment in combat.

[Stormfrenzy88]

Originally posted by aclyte:

Originally posted by Ichthyic:

I like to micromanage who gets the xp for a kill, and also who gets permanently mind controlled as an extra unit or hero, so I MOSTLY do manual combats. Only when I simply do not care who gets xp (usually because everybody is maxed out already) will I auto. And yes, it can get tedious on big maps, but this was always the case with every 4x4 ever.

as i know, in AoW4 all units get the same amount of XP no matter who made killing blow (like in previous AoW titles) - devs made it to cut off this micromanagment in combat.

Yea shared XP and battle healing being temporary are both changes to speed up combat in general and reduce the need to manually fight combats to micromanage your units.

[Kermode Bear]

Originally posted by Supply Side Jesus:

Yes, I don't fight manually unless absolutely have to. I would rather lose units.

Same. Unless the auto-battle results in a significant loss, I'd rather not spend the 15-20 minutes.

And this, I think, is interesting and something to take note of. The combat isn't engaging or interesting enough somehow. I can't exactly place my finger on anything specific that I would change, but combat in AoW often feels like a chore.

[Ichthyic]

Originally posted by sandman25dcsss:

Originally posted by Ichthyic:

I like to micromanage who gets the xp for a kill, and also who gets permanently mind controlled as an extra unit or hero, so I MOSTLY do manual combats. Only when I simply do not care who gets xp (usually because everybody is maxed out already) will I auto. And yes, it can get tedious on big maps, but this was always the case with every 4x4 ever.

XP is shared evenly, it does not matter who kills.

that cannot be correct. if you autoplay vs manual you WILL see a difference.

[Wlerin]

The builds I've used lately (e.g. 20+ defense Industrial shield walls, Nightmare Knights) aren't particularly strong in auto-battle, so I do end up manual resolving most of the time. Plus against the harder AIs you're usually fighting 6-7 stacks at a time so you can't really afford the casualties that auto resolve gives.

Originally posted by Ichthyic:

that cannot be correct. if you autoplay vs manual you WILL see a difference.

I nearly always manually resolve. It is correct. Even if it weren't, Ascended Warriors exists.


edit: To clarify, what I usually do is Auto Resolve, then Retry manually if any important units get wiped out. Which with the mentioned builds was almost always.

[sandman25dcsss]

Originally posted by Ichthyic:

Originally posted by sandman25dcsss:

XP is shared evenly, it does not matter who kills.

that cannot be correct. if you autoplay vs manual you WILL see a difference.

Do you mean this is wrong?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1669000/discussions/0/5294588689509192692/

[Anarchy Burger]

Only auto when its a curbstomp otherwise the auto is hilariously bad with my units and I have to fight manually to not have losses

[Private Pyle]

Like 25 % manual.

[Stormfrenzy88]

Originally posted by Kermode Bear:

And this, I think, is interesting and something to take note of. The combat isn't engaging or interesting enough somehow. I can't exactly place my finger on anything specific that I would change, but combat in AoW often feels like a chore.

I couldn't disagree more. Unless you play a game that is solely about tactical combats like XCOM or some RPG you won't find better combat than this.