Age of Wonders 4

Age of Wonders 4

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Fiur May 19, 2023 @ 10:22am
Probability of Wonders.
I reloaded now - 10 times. On a 60% success and even tried in the next turn. It always failed. Are those event's hard coded to not to get them?
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DasaKamov May 19, 2023 @ 10:27am 
Sounds like you've had bad luck with the dice - keep in mind that 60% is *barely* better than a 50/50 chance.

I've succeeded on 40% chances-to-win and failed on 80% chances to win before, so the dice fall where they may.

EDIT: It's possible there's some sort of save-scumming-prevention hardcoded in the game, but IIRC others have stated that they can reload the game until they get the results the want, so I'm unsure about that.
Last edited by DasaKamov; May 19, 2023 @ 10:33am
sandman25dcsss May 19, 2023 @ 10:27am 
Seeded rng
ReverseRaven May 19, 2023 @ 10:31am 
I have never been able to reload to get a different outcome myself.
アンジェル May 19, 2023 @ 10:41am 
Originally posted by Fiur:
Probability of Wonders.
I reloaded now - 10 times. On a 60% success and even tried in the next turn. It always failed. Are those event's hard coded to not to get them?

Originally posted by sikbok (developer):
Yes, we do save the random seed.

However, that's not to prevent save scumming. As doing anything else involving randomness before you try again on the roll that failed will give you another chance.

The main reason is so it's easier to reproduce issues from save games. Which helps us fix problems.

If you like to save scrum, please do. If you don't, that's fine too.

I have updated the information in my guide so you can find that easier...
Last edited by アンジェル; May 19, 2023 @ 10:43am
Fiur May 19, 2023 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by アンジェル:
Originally posted by Fiur:
Probability of Wonders.
I reloaded now - 10 times. On a 60% success and even tried in the next turn. It always failed. Are those event's hard coded to not to get them?

Originally posted by sikbok (developer):
Yes, we do save the random seed.

However, that's not to prevent save scumming. As doing anything else involving randomness before you try again on the roll that failed will give you another chance.

The main reason is so it's easier to reproduce issues from save games. Which helps us fix problems.

If you like to save scrum, please do. If you don't, that's fine too.

I have updated the information in my guide so you can find that easier...

I mean I wanted to know what the outcome is - it said something about giving major unit enhancements and I wanted to know if it's only in the battle or permanent. I barely have any hours in the game and only completed 1 run of the beginner course. ^^

But well yeah this explains it. Idk what guide you mean though. But well I'm not gonna try to do that again then and just play it safe.
DDkiki May 19, 2023 @ 12:54pm 
Its seeded RNG, to change result you need not just reload save, but also change game's "State" so it generated different seed.
Sephiroth May 19, 2023 @ 12:58pm 
why they make so many wonders? takes away from the point of it being a wonder.... when there are numerous ones on the map also really dumb wonders ... like do you see some of these 1 star wonders? a wonder should be rare and special.

They made like little holes with trash in it a wonder... like wtf... just label it a cave or something. Really bad decisions all over the place in this game.

Looks like it was amateur hour for developers.
Fiur May 19, 2023 @ 1:05pm 
Originally posted by Sephiroth:
why they make so many wonders? takes away from the point of it being a wonder.... when there are numerous ones on the map also really dumb wonders ... like do you see some of these 1 star wonders? a wonder should be rare and special.

They made like little holes with trash in it a wonder... like wtf... just label it a cave or something. Really bad decisions all over the place in this game.

Looks like it was amateur hour for developers.

I'm rather frustrated at the Ai just forward settling me. Can't they just go the other way xD
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Date Posted: May 19, 2023 @ 10:22am
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