Do I win when my ally wins or not?

[Vargskinn]

So, in one game I played, my ally won a magic victory. And I was therefore winning. In another game, more recently, my ally won a points vivtory. And I am there ... defeated?! I do not understand. Is there another mechanic at works that I am not seeing? Is it the different victory types? Have there been changes in an update? I am quite cofused now. What am I missing here?

Thank you so much for any info on this!

[sandman25dcsss]

There is an advanced option to enable/disable allied victory. By default it is enabled. If you haven't touched it, then it looks like score victory is special.

[Janthis]

Yes, you normally win when your ally wins. Someone even found a funny exploit if you want to gather imperium quickly, which is to start a 2 player game (just you vs one AI), then as soon as you find him declare war, offer yourself as a vassal and win.

[Grimbot]

I had my first win by ally yesterday, or so I thought. Jarlan Voss, Sanguine, and myself were allied. Voss lost his magic victory node at the last second, leaving the score win to Sanguine. I expected to get the win too, but I didn't.

Not sure if it's an edge case where Voss had to actually get the win in order for it to count.

[RadCon One]

Originally posted by Johnny_B_80:

Yes, you normally win when your ally wins. Someone even found a funny exploit if you want to gather imperium quickly, which is to start a 2 player game (just you vs one AI), then as soon as you find him declare war, offer yourself as a vassal and win.

That no longer works, the AI won't take the last enemy faction as a vassal anymore... It has been speculated that this was to stop people from quickly grinding through the pantheon tree for.... reasons (not like there is some monetary gain there)?

This is partially because a non-developer created mod that did just that and helped people quickly grind through the tree with a single victory was intentionally borked by the developers after a certain update, by them entirely disabling the function it worked through.

They made the things above priorities and hit them pretty quickly after they were used, and there is no clear reason as to why.

[Janthis]

Originally posted by RadCon One:

Originally posted by Johnny_B_80:

Yes, you normally win when your ally wins. Someone even found a funny exploit if you want to gather imperium quickly, which is to start a 2 player game (just you vs one AI), then as soon as you find him declare war, offer yourself as a vassal and win.

That no longer works, the AI won't take the last enemy faction as a vassal anymore... It has been speculated that this was to stop people from quickly grinding through the pantheon tree for.... reasons (not like there is some monetary gain there)?

This is partially because a non-developer created mod that did just that and helped people quickly grind through the tree with a single victory was intentionally borked by the developers after a certain update, by them entirely disabling the function it worked through.

They made the things above priorities and hit them pretty quickly after they were used, and there is no clear reason as to why.

Maybe they'll do like Ubisoft and start selling XP boosters for $10.99 :P

[DesertRose92]

Dunno if it has been fixed in the Wyvern update, but score lead win is not shared, only the other ones.

[Motherball]

You have to be the clear victor in the campaign stories. Custom maps are more forgiving with the allied victory condition.

1v1 sets teams automatically now, so there is no diplomacy at all.

[sandman25dcsss]

Originally posted by Motherball:

1v1 sets teams automatically now, so there is no diplomacy at all.

Not just now, it was the case in aow3 and pf too.

[Motherball]

Originally posted by sandman25dcsss:

Originally posted by Motherball:

1v1 sets teams automatically now, so there is no diplomacy at all.

Not just now, it was the case in aow3 and pf too.

I was referring specifically to the 1v1 vassal cheese for pantheon ascension that the devs patched out with the wyvern update. I never played 1v1 in 3 or PF.

[sandman25dcsss]

Originally posted by Motherball:

Originally posted by sandman25dcsss:

Not just now, it was the case in aow3 and pf too.

I was referring specifically to the 1v1 vassal cheese for pantheon ascension that the devs patched out with the wyvern update. I never played 1v1 in 3 or PF.

Sorry, I misread your post.