100 Imperium to unlock seafaring????

[Charlando[SunsOfStmChrts]]

Seems like a steep price for something that should be a basic function. If its 100 imperium then why not just "pretend" the oceans are impassable mountains and spend the imperium on something else?

[Garatgh Deloi]

Depending on the map sure you can do that, but good luck if you are involved in a fight over the underworld (Many paths down there being underground rivers with no land routes) or have more then one landmass in the overworld map.

[The Dapper Dragon]

That's like, three turns, tops. What are you talking about 'steep'?

[Imperium]

wouldn't call it steep... would agree if it was like 200.

[CrUsHeR]

A ridiculous scam price, considering it cost 50 before the patch - and even the roaming units get it for free...

And why on earth does Road Building even cost anything at all? You'll already pay hundreds of gold for building the roads.

[The Big Brzezinski]

Consider that cost versus other things you could be doing in the first few turns on the game, like boosting free city allegiance, rushing your starting city's expansion, or banking it to start a new city. The benefits are comparable. Deciding which will be best at the time is gameplay.

[Motherball]

Doesn’t the seafaring trait get it for free?

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Motherball:

Doesn’t the seafaring trait get it for free?

That origin does get it for free.

[Rhalius]

Makes the seafaring trait a bit more worthwhile since it saves more Imperium.

And it seems balanced enough to me at the current price.

[rumpelstiltskin]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

Depending on the map sure you can do that, but good luck if you are involved in a fight over the underworld (Many paths down there being underground rivers with no land routes) or have more then one landmass in the overworld map.

now i can't even embark underground with this skill alone. one of the ais definitely did it in the same game though, probably because it had underground adaptation (but its description doesn't mention that). must have been changed in the patch, because i was definitely able to sail underground before without that perk.

[Pyro Penguin]

yeah they never should have increased the costs in the general tree, honestly i don't think they should have touched any of them, it's just a symptom of the tome problem

[瀟湘子の義弟]

I first saw something like imperium that cost to unlock basic functions in Endless Legend ( in that game, even the deals you can make with AI leaders need unlock), I don't prefer to mechanism like this but it's only my personal favor, many people seem to adore it.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Pyro Penguin:

yeah they never should have increased the costs in the general tree, honestly i don't think they should have touched any of them, it's just a symptom of the tome problem

If it bothers you that much you should join the developer's "exclusive club" to influence the game design
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1669000/discussions/0/5264192561401376692/

[Professor H. Farnsworth]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Pyro Penguin:

yeah they never should have increased the costs in the general tree, honestly i don't think they should have touched any of them, it's just a symptom of the tome problem

If it bothers you that much you should join the developer's "exclusive club" to influence the game design
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1669000/discussions/0/5264192561401376692/

Less influence, more testing really.. Don't think beta testers hold any more sway than the rest of us..

Be nice to be contacted with a yay/nay tho xD

[leonardonabreu]

It is better to buy it with Imperium than having to research it like in most other games. Or worse, having to build transport ships that carried 2 or 3 units at a time.