Age of Wonders 4

Age of Wonders 4

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Chad Jun 22, 2023 @ 6:31pm
Army leader
Hiho

I have already asked that question before but the answer wasn't satisfying.
I can't know for sure how to set a specific hero as an army leader.
It's kinda annoying when you wanna roleplay. I made my faction leader as a good character but also as a very strong and bulky industrious Orc. Therefore I chose combat skills for him and decided my 2nd hero was gonna be the army leader with the army leading skills (exp bonus etc.). But that 2nd character is lvl 4, my faction leader is lvl 8, and despite the fact my 2nd hero is the only one with army leading skills, my faction leader is chosen by the game to be my army leader. Its pretty annoying and kinda force your faction leader to also always be your army leader.
Have I missed something? Don't you guys think devs should add that possibility to the game?

Thanks :)
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Stormsong Jun 22, 2023 @ 6:37pm 
No, you've not missed anything. Ruler -> Highest level hero -> Higher tier unit (though from this point onward in the process, consideration for the original question is useless, these units don't have leader skills)

Doesn't matter to me either way. The rules as they stand are easy enough to make use of. If they make it a choice which is evident in the UI, that will be just as simple.
Chad Jun 22, 2023 @ 6:40pm 
Aight. Yeah but it kinda force you to always build your ruler the same way: with leader skills
Kazeck Jun 22, 2023 @ 6:53pm 
I honestly have ignored leaderskills and been just fine, I only build them on my ruler if I'm going swarmer/have a lot of t1's I want to buff. Otherwise the benefits are nice, but unnecessary with a beefy stack.
Motherball Jun 23, 2023 @ 1:07am 
You can still use your second hero as an army leader. What is roleplay about requiring your heroes to group together? Just put the units you want to lead into the second hero’s group, and your ruler can lead the way as the bulky badass.
Originally posted by Stormsong the Fallen:
No, you've not missed anything. Ruler -> Highest level hero -> Higher tier unit (though from this point onward in the process, consideration for the original question is useless, these units don't have leader skills)

Doesn't matter to me either way. The rules as they stand are easy enough to make use of. If they make it a choice which is evident in the UI, that will be just as simple.
Number of support skills the hero has is how it is determined for which hero not level so Ruler -> Hero with most support skills -> Higher tier unit
Chad Jun 23, 2023 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by Motherball:
You can still use your second hero as an army leader. What is roleplay about requiring your heroes to group together? Just put the units you want to lead into the second hero’s group, and your ruler can lead the way as the bulky badass.

Yeah but the dude who'll lead my army during battles will still be my ruler somehow (lvl 8, no leader skills) and not my 2nd hero (lvl 4, 3 leader skills)
Chad Jun 23, 2023 @ 7:31am 
Originally posted by Howell-Barrex Soldier Ja'kala:
Originally posted by Stormsong the Fallen:
No, you've not missed anything. Ruler -> Highest level hero -> Higher tier unit (though from this point onward in the process, consideration for the original question is useless, these units don't have leader skills)

Doesn't matter to me either way. The rules as they stand are easy enough to make use of. If they make it a choice which is evident in the UI, that will be just as simple.
Number of support skills the hero has is how it is determined for which hero not level so Ruler -> Hero with most support skills -> Higher tier unit



So how do you explain the character who does lead my army during battles still is my ruler somehow (lvl 8, no leader skills) and not my 2nd hero (lvl 4, 3 leader skills)?
Lord Vectra Jun 23, 2023 @ 6:19pm 
Originally posted by Gabriel Knight:
Originally posted by Howell-Barrex Soldier Ja'kala:
Number of support skills the hero has is how it is determined for which hero not level so Ruler -> Hero with most support skills -> Higher tier unit



So how do you explain the character who does lead my army during battles still is my ruler somehow (lvl 8, no leader skills) and not my 2nd hero (lvl 4, 3 leader skills)?

From what I gathered, he's saying ur ruler is still first but the next to be leader should that Ruler leave is the hero with most support skills and not the next hero with highest level.
Chad Jun 23, 2023 @ 7:11pm 
Originally posted by Lord Vectra:
Originally posted by Gabriel Knight:



So how do you explain the character who does lead my army during battles still is my ruler somehow (lvl 8, no leader skills) and not my 2nd hero (lvl 4, 3 leader skills)?

From what I gathered, he's saying ur ruler is still first but the next to be leader should that Ruler leave is the hero with most support skills and not the next hero with highest level.


Yeah, probably. but that's kinda my point: if you want a hero with leader skills, it has to be your ruler. Less diversity
Chad Jul 3, 2023 @ 6:56am 
Hello. Have I misunderstood something?
Is your army leader the guy who leads your army on the battlefield or is it the dude who leads your army on the world map?
How can I know who's the army leader on thr battlefield?

If for example my ruler is in a 6 troops army. He doesn't have any army leader skill. He joins a fight along with another friendly army of 6 people where another hero of mine is the leader that has army leading skills.

E.G.: 6x1 ruler no army leading skill + 6x1 hero with army leading skills
How can I know who's the leader on the battlefield?
Does my hero apply his army leading skills' bonuses to my 12 doldiers?
sandman25dcsss Jul 3, 2023 @ 7:02am 
Ruler is always leader
Chad Jul 3, 2023 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by sandman25dcsss:
Ruler is always leader

no
GreyHuntr Jul 3, 2023 @ 8:12am 
Stack Leader goes Ruler > Highest Level Hero > Hero with most Support skills in case of a tie. You can make a good fighting Ruler and just have them be in a different stack from the army. That way your support skill hero is still the leader in battle.
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Date Posted: Jun 22, 2023 @ 6:31pm
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