Disappointed that the obvious "exploit" or shortcut for making Balor's wasnt changed in the major patch.

[Vegas Dad]

For those who are not aware you can create armies of balor very fast and cheap bypassing the need to even research summon balor and avoid the population hit which is part of the cost of creating Balor. All you need to do is summon a pair of chao eater and then cast fight for power and they will convert into a Balor. While it might sound like alot its actually cheaper and doesnt even require the spell researched.

you actually can even stair step with level one demons or demon created from city production. Balor is a is the most powerful unit in the game no close second and the cost to summon was penalizing to compensate for such immense i can assume and with the simple steps i provided it trivializes balor production and in no time you will have armies of balor steam rolling everything. No bug but seems just like an unintended interaction the developers didnt think of.

[Telos]

It seems like this is an obvious use of fight for power, so it must have been foreseen and accepted when they created fight for power. So I wouldn't count it as an "exploit". Not sure whether you're right about it being overpowered...

[HolyGrail]

By the time you can balor spam it's very late game and probably time to start finishing up already and if you can afford it then you likely should have won quite a while back.. a certain other affinity has an spell that drains every single one of your buffs and echantments; enchantless balors would get devastated quite quickly by enchanted tier 1 & 2 units for instance..

[Prisoner 76561197992841073]

uhh?? for making Balor's what?

[Gaslov]

I sort of agree that balor is the strongest unit in the game, but who do you think wins in a fight, a balor or a golden golem? A balor vs a living fog? Obviously, a battle doesn't happen in a 1v1 vacuum, but even with fighting for power, balors are the most expensive unit to produce.

[~ Fabulous ~]

Originally posted by Gaslov:

I sort of agree that balor is the strongest unit in the game, but who do you think wins in a fight, a balor or a golden golem? A balor vs a living fog? Obviously, a battle doesn't happen in a 1v1 vacuum, but even with fighting for power, balors are the most expensive unit to produce.

t1 archers with multiple racial transformation of course

[Vegas Dad]

Originally posted by Gaslov:

I sort of agree that balor is the strongest unit in the game, but who do you think wins in a fight, a balor or a golden golem? A balor vs a living fog? Obviously, a battle doesn't happen in a 1v1 vacuum, but even with fighting for power, balors are the most expensive unit to produce.

actually with this tactic they are less than a dread reaper and balor is a far superior unit. what you do is max casting points, mana and you will find you can make plenty of balors you reach a point you make 3 a turn. Also the stair step to to bridge them is summoning masses of tier 2 lightning elementals and auto upgrading them to the tier 3 with the spell. So after long you are just rolling everything with your easily made balor armies which are unstoppable.

PS you also get to save picking the chaos tier 5 tome and the time to research the spell itself.

[Vegas Dad]

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

Originally posted by Gaslov:

I sort of agree that balor is the strongest unit in the game, but who do you think wins in a fight, a balor or a golden golem? A balor vs a living fog? Obviously, a battle doesn't happen in a 1v1 vacuum, but even with fighting for power, balors are the most expensive unit to produce.

t1 archers with multiple racial transformation of course

Actually the balor's auto kills them with his range ability that hits for 60-90 its not even close in fact the balors leave with full hp.

[Vegas Dad]

Originally posted by DeathevokatioN:

By the time you can balor spam it's very late game and probably time to start finishing up already and if you can afford it then you likely should have won quite a while back.. a certain other affinity has an spell that drains every single one of your buffs and echantments; enchantless balors would get devastated quite quickly by enchanted tier 1 & 2 units for instance..

well depends on how you play and what you call "late game". You can actually get them rolling pretty fast and there is an excellent early game play to bridge you to balor summons spamming t2 lightning elements using spell to auto upgrade their xp to make them t3 version for cheap. With focus on casting points and mana you can churn out 2-3 full armies of these every turn.

[walkaboutotter]

This isn't an exploit, it's a second avenue for achieving the same goal. Good games allow multiple way to accomplish something. In this case, you have to go through multiple steps, but if you are willing to do so, you avoid losing city population. How is this an exploit? It is simply a mechanism in the game. I think a lot of people misunderstand the term exploit. Is any synergetic use of game mechanics an 'exploit.' Is finding nice economic engines an 'exploit.' Obviously not, they are simply gamers finding ways to approach the game in different and possibly beneficial ways. An exploit is a game breaking mechanic, and this certainly isn't 'game breaking.'

[Ichthyic]

I frankly prefer the chaos eater over the balor anyway.

I can do literally thousands of points of damage to an entire army with just one and a bit of luck. not uncommon for an army to move as a group. with a little planning, not hard to debuff it to hell and gone... not uncommon for me to do 300 points of damage to EACH unit in an army.