The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie

The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie

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Edwardlloyd Aug 31, 2023 @ 12:40pm
What exactly was the point of this game?
I was skeptical about people calling this a glorified epilogue but it really was. Absolutely no noteworthy story and character progression in SSS and C7, same old conversations. They don't even interact with each other anyway with SO.MANY.UNNECESSARY.CHARACTERS.
can't even remember if Rean talked to his romance or Lloyd speaking to Ellie about anything noteworthy.
only C's group get some form of story and character progression but was that really necessary? will we see them in Kuro? fingers crossed. If we don't see them in kuro this game was really just a waste of time.

even the banner girl is in the game like for a total of 5 mins. that's false advertising lol.
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Koby Aug 31, 2023 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by Edwardlloyd:
will we see them in Kuro?
Yes
Endora Aug 31, 2023 @ 4:28pm 
Well, considering that what anyone sees on a story is an extremaly personal question, I hope you can see some point anyway even if the plots could be better told.

Some will consider that is an epilogue for all the previous arcs and a link to the new Kuro arc.

Some will say that is an redemption arc for "C", mostly to players like me that never could really hate him and instead felt sorry for his lonelly or sympatise with his looking for a purpose on a meaningless life.

Some will say that is some kind of clousure for Rean, for is only by the acknoledgment of the past that one can really move on to the future.

All that are good plots, even if not all that was oustandingly scripted. But for me, the weekest path was Lloyd's, because his realization that what was wrong with his way to think was some kind of shadowed by the repetition of the plot of Zero and Azure.
Last edited by Endora; Aug 31, 2023 @ 5:04pm
Stabbey Aug 31, 2023 @ 5:16pm 
I like part where the game asks you to pick who Rean's special girl was, even though it does not actually use that in a meaningful way. It just does the same thing as with Lloyd's route, giving a special "maybe romance partner" scene with everyone, except that Rean's version is about 1-2 lines and not a full scene.

I picked Alisa as Rean's partner, and they don't come face-to-face until the Finale chapter, and despite Falcom signalling her as the choice they prefer for Rean, her scene is just as much of a blink-and-miss it as everyone else.

Originally posted by Endora:
Some will say that is some kind of clousure for Rean, for is only by the acknoledgment of the past that one can really move on to the future.

Rean did get some character growth and change, he learns that what he does affects other people and that sacrificing his life for their happiness might not actually make them happy. However, the fact that Rean has had FOUR games as the main protagonist and STILL NEEDED a 5th game for that development is not good at all.
Endora Aug 31, 2023 @ 5:53pm 
I don't really think is the number of books/games/chapters - Harry Potter had 7 books, Frodo Baggins had 3 monstruously big ones (and yet I couldn't stop reading all my free time untill the end), Saitama had... well, he may be STILL having over a hundred chapters to show some personal development (I gave up some time ago because I'm not good at to wait the next chapter to be published). The point is how good/bad the story is written, not how much.
Last edited by Endora; Aug 31, 2023 @ 10:01pm
vkobe Aug 31, 2023 @ 6:56pm 
Originally posted by Edwardlloyd:
I was skeptical about people calling this a glorified epilogue but it really was. Absolutely no noteworthy story and character progression in SSS and C7, same old conversations. They don't even interact with each other anyway with SO.MANY.UNNECESSARY.CHARACTERS.
can't even remember if Rean talked to his romance or Lloyd speaking to Ellie about anything noteworthy.
only C's group get some form of story and character progression but was that really necessary? will we see them in Kuro? fingers crossed. If we don't see them in kuro this game was really just a waste of time.

even the banner girl is in the game like for a total of 5 mins. that's false advertising lol.
same than sword art online you play and enjoy

you can love or not

yes they have too much character like sword art online

but anyway you can try unlock their fighting dialogue for fun
Yekkusu Aug 31, 2023 @ 10:40pm 
The point was... I don't know, show Crossbell independence and tell us that suddenly Erebonia had to give SO MUCH MONEY away that Callvard suddenly became the next potency instead of Erebonia?

To me this game feels more like a Test Drive for the new engine. The story is meh, the lack of grand master just shows that they don't think the story throughout completely because they even said she was planned but then by making the story she didn't fit on it anymore, again just showing that probably they write the stories on the go. Who knows?

I find the cutscenes way better in this game, if CS4 had half of the effort in the battle scenes as this game has, it would be way more epic. I think on a technical level this game is the best one so far.

As a PC port, this one is the best port in the entire Trails series, period. It just looks good in every aspect and actually behaves itself as a PC game, not as a try-out port like the previous games (I still have a drama with the arts not playing correctly in CS3 and 4 xD).

But yeah, the story was unnecessary, it didn't discuss any of the plot points told on Cold Steel IV, it didn't show anything about the Grandmaster AT ALL, she didn't even was into the events that transpired, AND the final boss is just dumb. The dialogs are all the samey, the speeches are just meh, ironically the best ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ part of this game is C's route, because it's good to play with a character that is just laughing at the friendship speeches. Ironically it's a doll that teaches him way more than any speeches from those two.


Anyways, yeah, it's a fun game on a gameplay level, it's a dumb game in story this time. Not the WORST but at least Sky the 3rd felt way more interesting since Kevin is just a damn well written character.
Alex Aug 31, 2023 @ 10:55pm 
It's not dumb. Take note it's a finisher, a minor post-story plotline that came after all the major events. Much like the 3rd.
Alex Aug 31, 2023 @ 10:57pm 
For the port quality, I feel all CS's are of the same quality, just due to the engine and its update in CS3 and further update in TiR.

It actually hardly can be considered a port anymore given native engine support for both source and target platforms. Well, there are major PC-related enhancements to the game which are still *ton of work*, so we are to give guys doing that their huge due credit, especially controller wise and GFX wise, but still the very base remains compatible.
Last edited by Alex; Aug 31, 2023 @ 11:00pm
Stabbey Sep 1, 2023 @ 5:14am 
Originally posted by Endora:
I don't really think is the number of books/games/chapters - Harry Potter had 7 books, Frodo Baggins had 3 monstruously big ones (and yet I couldn't stop reading all my free time untill the end), Saitama had... well, he may be STILL having over a hundred chapters to show some personal development (I gave up some time ago because I'm not good at to wait the next chapter to be published). The point is how good/bad the story is written, not how much.

Sorry, what was that last one? You "gave up" on the one which was having over a hundred chapters? Perhaps maybe It does matter how long it takes?

Plus, I literally said that it was NOT GOOD that Falcom needed a fifth game for Rean to show growth. The big climax of Rean's story was last game. That's when development should have become evident.

Originally posted by Alex:
It's not dumb. Take note it's a finisher, a minor post-story plotline that came after all the major events. Much like the 3rd.

It absolutely is dumb. The amount of hand-waving, vagueness and the flimsy justifications for no one noticing millions of tons of material moving around is ludicrous.
Originally posted by Stabbey:
Originally posted by Alex:
It's not dumb. Take note it's a finisher, a minor post-story plotline that came after all the major events. Much like the 3rd.

It absolutely is dumb. The amount of hand-waving, vagueness and the flimsy justifications for no one noticing millions of tons of material moving around is ludicrous.

This.

Also, the plot of this game involves an impending apocalypse, which is about as far from a 'minor post-story plotline' as you can get. That this whole plot takes place in little over a week and is kicked off by an event that is completely LOLrandom and never explained beyond 'a bug in the system' makes it even worse.

To be sure, there are a number of things I like in Reverie, including C's and Rean's sides of the story, but the central plot is very weak (as is Lloyd's side).
Alex Sep 1, 2023 @ 11:13am 
It's just fun. They certainly also have taken a page from SAO:A there.
Exarch_Alpha Sep 1, 2023 @ 5:10pm 
If they tried to redeem Rufus it failed, still would kill him if i could

:steamhappy:
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