The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero

The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero

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Yekkusu Oct 1, 2022 @ 9:12am
Evo VS Original OST.
So, I was playing the game and holy hell the OG OST is awesome. Compared to the Sky games, which have good composition but do feel like it's missing some instruments here and there and the EVO OST is just tons better, this one is actually backwards.

Most of the re-arranges for EVO are lacking or lost completelly in adaptation.

So far, and I am listening to the EVO OST on Spotfy, the only music I think is better on EVO is: Get over the barrier - Roaring Version -, which mantain the core of the song intact but adds a lot of drums that enhance the quality of the song.

The OG for that song is essentially the Violin through the entire song, the EVO has a lot more happening and the harmony of every single instrument is a work of art, and way more impactfull. But that's it, I do prefer the original OST over the EVO in a heartbeat.

Also, the battle theme of this game is the absolutelly BEST so far from every single series. I don't know why they chose such an impactfull song for the standard battle theme usually they would do it for the second or last game, but this is so far the best in the entire series so far.
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Shadic Oct 1, 2022 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by Yekkusu:
So, I was playing the game and holy hell the OG OST is awesome. Compared to the Sky games, which have good composition but do feel like it's missing some instruments here and there and the EVO OST is just tons better, this one is actually backwards.

Most of the re-arranges for EVO are lacking or lost completelly in adaptation.

So far, and I am listening to the EVO OST on Spotfy, the only music I think is better on EVO is: Get over the barrier - Roaring Version -, which mantain the core of the song intact but adds a lot of drums that enhance the quality of the song.

The OG for that song is essentially the Violin through the entire song, the EVO has a lot more happening and the harmony of every single instrument is a work of art, and way more impactfull. But that's it, I do prefer the original OST over the EVO in a heartbeat.

Also, the battle theme of this game is the absolutelly BEST so far from every single series. I don't know why they chose such an impactfull song for the standard battle theme usually they would do it for the second or last game, but this is so far the best in the entire series so far.
For me EVO sky was horrible. Only the 3rd was alright. SC had some of it's best songs ruined.
chris100185 Oct 1, 2022 @ 1:11pm 
I don't know if I'd say it's better, just different, but I really like the EVO version of Inevitable Struggle.

For Azure though, the EVO version of Azure Arbitrator blows the already great original out of the water.
Bwil Oct 1, 2022 @ 1:38pm 
Trails in the Sky Evo soundtracks are incredibly disappointing, but I firmly believe Zero/Azure Evo soundtracks are simply the best soundtracks ever released for a Kiseki game. I would say that maybe 80 to 90% of the tracks benefit from the new arrangements.
I really hope someone quickly finds a way to use the Evolution soundtrack in Trails from Zero. Until then, I'll keep playing the Geofront version. And I'm in no way disparaging Durante's work on this new release : it's an excellent port, probably the best version of Zero on every aspect but the music. To me, however, music matters above everything else.
I like the Evo OST version of the song better and will replace it, but the BGM table is very difficult to modify.
This version uses 48KHz opus, but the BGM table uses 44.1KHz 'LoopStart' and 'LoopSpan' sampling values.

In the meantime, I have modified the tables up to the non-Event songs, but it will take more time.

Inevitable Struggle is available in OG, Evo, and Super Arrange Version, and I prefer the Super Arrange Version.
Last edited by bri <BrichanFiana>; Oct 7, 2022 @ 8:06pm
Bwil Oct 8, 2022 @ 6:09am 
Well, take all the time you need, and thank you soooooo much for working on it.
Shadic Oct 8, 2022 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by bri:
I like the Evo OST version of the song better and will replace it, but the BGM table is very difficult to modify.
This version uses 48KHz opus, but the BGM table uses 44.1KHz 'LoopStart' and 'LoopSpan' sampling values.

In the meantime, I have modified the tables up to the non-Event songs, but it will take more time.

Inevitable Struggle is available in OG, Evo, and Super Arrange Version, and I prefer the Super Arrange Version.
Any link to keep up with your mod?
HunterRassius Oct 8, 2022 @ 1:14pm 
Honestly, the Evo soundtracks are just so much WORSE than the original arrangements it's just awful. It feels like most of the songs are "underwater" and for the one's that aren't are changed where it feels like a completely different (worse) song or gut the entire spirit of it.

A good example is Dark Throne (one of my favorites) where the "background" instrumentation becomes the "foreground" instrumentation. It's so bad it makes me want to cry.

Hearing Evo's Steel Roar just pisses me off.
We have created a table for changing the BGM to the Evolution version, except for some songs that are not in the OST, and are currently playing and testing from the beginning.
We are thinking of releasing it to the public, but we are not sure what to do with the music data due to copyright issues.

Example Ending song needs to connect two songs. Also, there is no way to include Cerulean Blue Love.

From the Evolution OST, the music data can be converted to 48 kHz OPUS and renamed as prescribed, and then all we need to do is replace "t_bgm._dt" in the data\text folder (I think the English version is data\text_us folder, but I have not checked).

You can check the BGM file name by opening the file data\bgm\info.yaml with a text editor to see the BGM number.
The format is as follows
data_pc\bgm\ed7***.opus
*** is the song number made into 3 digits.

Example Song number 1 = ed7001.opus
Song number 400 = ed7400.opus

It would be better to put it all together in a guide, but since I am not very familiar with it, it may take some time.

BGM Table(MODS) Moved Other Threads.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1668510/discussions/0/5595184948696677002/

It is up to you to decide whether you prefer the PSP Original or the Evolution version.
Last edited by bri <BrichanFiana>; Oct 13, 2022 @ 12:12am
thanks for the spotify tip.. i went there and punched in legend of heroes and holy beejesus there they all were. Even have tear of vermillion and that series there as well.
bri <BrichanFiana> Oct 8, 2022 @ 4:51pm 
Originally posted by Bossonova911:
thanks for the spotify tip.. i went there and punched in legend of heroes and holy beejesus there they all were. Even have tear of vermillion and that series there as well.
So it's on spotify? Data would be easy to obtain.

Convert it to 48Khz WAVE and then to opus with opusenc.exe or any conversion software.

All OSTs should be present on Amazon Music Unlimited as well.
As I am Japanese, I used to buy music on CD until Trail to Azure (OG/Evo).
I have been playing Falcom games since the NEC PC-98 series, so I like tears of vermillon, cagesong of ocean,white witch.
Stabbey Oct 8, 2022 @ 4:54pm 
I will say that I like the EVO version of Demonic Drive and I HATE the EVO version of Ancient Pulsation.
Bwil Oct 8, 2022 @ 5:49pm 
@bri:
Been testing your BGM table (I already have the Evo tracks converted to .opus), and so far it seems to be working perfectly.
Thank you so much!
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