We want a fair and smooth football game!!

[tigerbb]

***I played video football games about 30 years, may be you guys don't know at first KONAMI'S football game is not called PES, it's called WINNING ELEVEN. I played this game for over 280 hours and I paid to buy legend, I experience everything in this game. I can win , I know how to win. The following is my love to KONAMI, asking them to change and fulfill our demands as soon as possible. The new company's football game is coming, if your game still like that, we can say bye to KONAMI.***

Since last update, I cannot find any opponent to complete the weekly events except I can only matched someone in ranking mode.
However, there are full of lag cheaters in ranking. Your team will become much slower then your opponent even you have full legends and 100 chemistry. And your defenders will be always having low response to anything so that your opponent can easily steal ball from your defender and score.

Also, there are so many people tired of matching legend team always in ranking mode, even paid or not KONAMI cannot fulfill us but only serving the high ranking people which you see only 2-3% in top 3 rank.

Why there are tons of player in rank 10?
Except from cheaters making new account to match their main high rank account to get marks, people have no fun in playing ranking mode and most of the people give up this game.

I would like to ask KONAMI, why you made football game for near 30 years but this time making such fail game to us?
Why the technology in the world is improving but KONAMI fail to deal with the defence system in the game and cheaters in the world?
You made game for near 30 years but still cannot understand letting people happy is the main way and only way for you to make profit?

Hope that KONAMI can give us an update to solve everything as soon as possible, or everyone will just forget this company and play another new football game in the coming September.


Most ridiculous things in this game:

1. The "Kick-off BUG", yes I called it a bug, everyone who played the game know what is it about: you can easily goal after kick-off and the defenders can do NOTHING, so you tell me this game is realistic? I don't think so, it's the worse bug I ever seen in all football games, just like you can kick from the center and goal from very long distance bug in 20 years ago, I can accept this kind of bug 20 years ago but not today.

2. FW can easily steal the ball then DF from opponent, near half of the goal you lost beacuse your defenders do nothing, no matter any tackling stat the player have, your opponent's FW will easily tackle from your defenders, you tell me it's realistic? I will say KONAMI haven't balance the game in a good way.

3. Offside is a joke. You can easily get caught because your player's finger or hair offside while your opponent will easily pass a through ball and you can do nothing with your defenders but just watch your opponent to score. You tell me it's realistic? KONAMI you just adding another unbalance things into the game, just telling everyone offside is "present" in the game. The past football games' offside system are better then this.

4. You will get red card and penalty even if you haven't press any button, however, when you are attacking 1 on 1, your opponent can slide tackle from behind but only got a yellow. You tell me it's realistic? KONAMI, are you changing the rules of football?

5. Not to mentioned to the lag cheaters and scripting while KONAMI never fix it at all in every year.

In conclusion, it's an UNBALANCED and UNFINISHED demo game.

[yudsky27]

As long as some people still want to waste money on this game mode, Konami would think no problem at all with this current scheme.

[76561199272573302]

Originally posted by tigerbb:

Since last update,Your team will become much slower then your opponent even you have full legends and 100 chemistry. And your defenders will be always having low response to anything so that your opponent can easily steal ball from your defender and score.

Also, there are so many people tired of matching legend team always in ranking mode, even paid or not KONAMI cannot fulfill us but only serving the high ranking people which you see only 2-3% in top 3 rank.

just Scripted..there was a match where my players did everything wrong for 80 minutes, then suddenly out of nowhere everyone knew what the tactics are and I won from 0-1 to 3-1.., just felt embarrassed myself, because every situation i was created it ended with a goal, it was so random and unreal.

[Harribo]

The game is alive! I like it very much

I dont have the problems you mentioned. Only sometimes a online lag.
I dont meet cheaters, maybe because I dont cheat myself?.. There is a matching system, if you cheat, you will get opponents who cheat

Try also the input lag fix mentioned here, it will make a difference

And of course keep checking your players' condition... If they are tired they play horrible.

Furthermore, try to see WHY you are loosing.
For example, I played ball posession with no pressure, high defence, got beaten with every high through ball. Fixed that, now play Wide

Of course the game is scripted but by far not so annoying as pes 2021.
And I find myself often to be able to correct these script faults

[How I met your Broodmother!]

Originally posted by ToRRo:

Originally posted by tigerbb:

I really think they should do something about the matchmaking and the scripting. Got ranked game against a rank 300 player. On top of that the game felt so scripted my player and keeper are like monkeys on pitch. Ever shot he took every pass I intercepted just went back to his players. I lost 1-9, amongst which he hardly had 2 good goals and every other goal felt like scripted.

[Jhonny]

game is still alive and growing

[76561199272573302]

Originally posted by How I met your Broodmother!:

Originally posted by tigerbb:

I really think they should do something about the matchmaking and the scripting. Got ranked game against a rank 300 player. On top of that the game felt so scripted my player and keeper are like monkeys on pitch. Ever shot he took every pass I intercepted just went back to his players. I lost 1-9, amongst which he hardly had 2 good goals and every other goal felt like scripted.

Exactly, I get stronger higher ranked opponents more often than not, and when I play them my players, even though they are in good form, just become so conspicuously slow and dumb, its unbelievable. And yes when every blocked pass or tackle puts god tier teams in a goal scoring situation it's just pathetic. There are some enjoyable matches, but at least 50% of them are so blatantly random that it reminds many people of scripting and handicapping, maybe not a coincidence... And before I forget, my highest ranked opponent was top 100, and I was just wondering if there was nobody else in Div5 or Div4 with the same strength I could get.. , Then I drew the first half, then got the usual goal from a kickoff which was a joke because the manmarking and defence was set, I gave the game almost 100 hours and only now realised that it doesn't matter how I vary the tactics if the matchmaking is so unfair and in top of that is scripted rubbish. So it's a waste of time as long as everything is so unbalanced.

[How I met your Broodmother!]

Originally posted by Sven:

game is still alive and growing

I hope they keep improving things to keep it more enjoyable. Right now for me the game only has 1 game mode that is the Divisions, for which there is no game balancing. Why even have division if you are going to be matching against a random player.

[FuraBalas]

Originally posted by Sven:

game is still alive and growing

Are you sure??? I think you're wrong, this one is falling,
if you followed connected players every day you wouldn't say that
The number has dropped a lot,
Efootball22 6,996 playing
pes21 6,311 playing


When you comment search what you talk about
Comment without knowing, it is better not comment, in the first week of the update there were more than 12 000 and it was always falling, I don't know where you got that - growing-

[djradu_85]

I like it,still unfinished, but hoping with the further updates will get better. I play on Dream Team- eLeague -Division, I’m on 6 division right now with Real Madrid and still waiting to accumulate gp for buying step by step the authentics players or some of them at least. True ,it’s hard when a basic team is matchmaked with opponent with strong legends or top players on their team,but sometimes you got lucky and get a draw or even win,witch’s is important for the spirit/strength of your basic team,till get enough gp to buy good players ,if you don’t want to spend real money like me.

[sty]

spending money to buy players for dream team mode is just not a good thing.. i rather pay money to play with real teams but with more modes then this demo... we need co op 1-1 friendly, better servers and master league for those who like offline modes

[tigerbb]

Originally posted by Harribo:

The game is alive! I like it very much

I dont have the problems you mentioned. Only sometimes a online lag.
I dont meet cheaters, maybe because I dont cheat myself?.. There is a matching system, if you cheat, you will get opponents who cheat

Try also the input lag fix mentioned here, it will make a difference

And of course keep checking your players' condition... If they are tired they play horrible.

Furthermore, try to see WHY you are loosing.
For example, I played ball posession with no pressure, high defence, got beaten with every high through ball. Fixed that, now play Wide

Of course the game is scripted but by far not so annoying as pes 2021.
And I find myself often to be able to correct these script faults

Thanks for your sharing that I can learn more from your suggestions.

I can win, I am in division 3, I am only sharing my opinion on this game based on my 30 years video football games experience.

The truth now is most people in the world don't agree that this game worth to make a profit.
And it's time for KONAMI to think deeply and change it as the coming September will have new company's football game.

[tigerbb]

Originally posted by sty:

spending money to buy players for dream team mode is just not a good thing.. i rather pay money to play with real teams but with more modes then this demo... we need co op 1-1 friendly, better servers and master league for those who like offline modes

You are right! We need more offline contents just like the past PES, we need more teams more players. If players can have more levels would be fun too, it just limit the good players.

[tigerbb]

Now only 4408 people online, when will KONAMI give this game a good update to fix every problems?

[76561199272573302]

Originally posted by tigerbb:

The players seem to be running out of patience, which is understandable. And new players are hard to keep when you get much stronger opponents with a mediocre team.
I've put in over 100 hours now, but my team is still far from perfect, there are some good fun, but there are lot of annoying things too. KONAMI needs to step up their game improvement even more after version 1.0, because it's not just a prestige issue anymore, player retention should be vital for them.

(After FIFA dumped EA, this is the opportunity for KONAMI to acquire licenses.)

[WingsBroken]

"(After FIFA dumped EA, this is the opportunity for KONAMI to acquire licenses.)"

I'd prefer Konami to invest the money on improving game engine and game mechanics, physics, etc...
Could not care less about licenses.