Need 2nd Production Line

[tradford1]

Lose too much business and get too many penalties later in the game with just one production line.

[Soylent_Greene]

that's released on Tier II

[tradford1]

I don't have tier 2 unlocked. Is that available yet?

[Evan]

Originally posted by tradford1:

I don't have tier 2 unlocked. Is that available yet?

At this pace it'll be around 2029

[RipoffPingu]

Originally posted by Evan:

Originally posted by tradford1:

I don't have tier 2 unlocked. Is that available yet?

At this pace it'll be around 2029

the devs teased at it being soon in another thread and the update is still on track for their regular update cycle :P
don't be so negative

[Evan]

Originally posted by RipoffPingu:

Originally posted by Evan:

At this pace it'll be around 2029

the devs teased at it being soon in another thread and the update is still on track for their regular update cycle :P
don't be so negative

Right.-

[RipoffPingu]

Originally posted by Evan:

Originally posted by RipoffPingu:

the devs teased at it being soon in another thread and the update is still on track for their regular update cycle :P
don't be so negative

Right.-

still on track, and they just leaked some more new stuff on the discord
once again, no need to be so negative - this dev team is doing great work, just gotta give them time to cook

[zoeren]

Originally posted by RipoffPingu:

Originally posted by Evan:

Right.-

still on track, and they just leaked some more new stuff on the discord
once again, no need to be so negative - this dev team is doing great work, just gotta give them time to cook

Maybe they should share what they are doing, if it's great work

[RipoffPingu]

Originally posted by zoeren:

Originally posted by RipoffPingu:

still on track, and they just leaked some more new stuff on the discord
once again, no need to be so negative - this dev team is doing great work, just gotta give them time to cook

Maybe they should share what they are doing, if it's great work

...they... are sharing what they're doing? i said in the message you replied to that they're leaking more stuff for the update in the discord?

[zoeren]

Originally posted by RipoffPingu:

Originally posted by zoeren:

Maybe they should share what they are doing, if it's great work

...they... are sharing what they're doing? i said in the message you replied to that they're leaking more stuff for the update in the discord?

I don't care what they are writing in any discord channel. Steam is the platform they sell the game.

What's so difficult about writing a small update that pops up in steam?

[RipoffPingu]

Originally posted by zoeren:

Originally posted by RipoffPingu:

...they... are sharing what they're doing? i said in the message you replied to that they're leaking more stuff for the update in the discord?

I don't care what they are writing in any discord channel. Steam is the platform they sell the game.

What's so difficult about writing a small update that pops up in steam?

nothing, its just easier for devs to keep people updated on a game's discord
if you want to keep up-to-date as much as possible with the game, you're gonna have to join the discord

[zoeren]

I know that's easier.

My point is: people ask when the next update will come. They look at their steam page. Nothing there. They get angry and ask in the forums.

In general you can do it that way. But people will get mad over time. Not communicating actively from the dev side will not make any it better.

I know that this is a problem in small teams. But communication is more important that fixing an additional bug this week

[RipoffPingu]

Originally posted by zoeren:

I know that's easier.

My point is: people ask when the next update will come. They look at their steam page. Nothing there. They get angry and ask in the forums.

In general you can do it that way. But people will get mad over time. Not communicating actively from the dev side will not make any it better.

I know that this is a problem in small teams. But communication is more important that fixing an additional bug this week

its far, far easier for the devs to communicate by discord, and the people that are properly dedicated to tracking game progress would have joined the discord anyways
devs are communicating well enough, just not for the masses of the steam forums

[Evan]

Originally posted by RipoffPingu:

Originally posted by zoeren:

the masses of the steam forums

..who have paid handsomely the price for a full game and have the right to know how and when will it be delivered. A clear timeline.

I am also among those who are "properly dedicated" to tracking game progress on discord, which is full of Patreon supporters who pay an additional $10 to $20 /month towards the development of the game.

With all this awesome support, however, comes responsibility. If it takes 6 months to release 2/3 of one nation's content, then the full 5 nations advertised could take an additional 3 years of development.

I don't think this pace is ok. And statements such as "we will give a more specific date but it will happen when we feel certain about this date" or "we'll take a break after the interbellum update" don't really help. The direct debits (for those who are paying) won't take a break during that period. And the rest of us have paid full price for just 10% of the content advertised.

A game has to be fully playable upon release, from start to end credits. Even Empire of Sin was fully playable upon release. So with every passing day, I get the feeling that this was a huge mistake from my part, and I trust I retain the right to say that as a loyal Steam customer with 13 years of service and owner of 388 games.

[blackhand_lost]

Originally posted by RipoffPingu:

its far, far easier for the devs to communicate by discord, and the people that are properly dedicated to tracking game progress would have joined the discord anyways
devs are communicating well enough, just not for the masses of the steam forums

Posting that teaser or an announcement here on steam as well is literally a matter of 2 minutes. You whiteknights are so ludicrous with your desire to oppose any critics you can find

[zoeren]

Originally posted by RipoffPingu:

Originally posted by zoeren:

I know that's easier.

My point is: people ask when the next update will come. They look at their steam page. Nothing there. They get angry and ask in the forums.

In general you can do it that way. But people will get mad over time. Not communicating actively from the dev side will not make any it better.

I know that this is a problem in small teams. But communication is more important that fixing an additional bug this week

its far, far easier for the devs to communicate by discord, and the people that are properly dedicated to tracking game progress would have joined the discord anyways
devs are communicating well enough, just not for the masses of the steam forums

That's hilarious.

Players don't need dedicated trackers. Software devs need it. I just want some info about the progress and no detailed tracking system.

Let's see what my boss says when I tell him: "our customers have to use discord from now on, it's easier for me. Buck those blogs and newsletters".

The whole reason you make a game is to sell it because that's how you pay your employees. Do you think Kickstarter is the way you finance your project over the years?

In that regard the masses of the steam forum are the ones you are making a game for