I don’t understand the hate for Iron Galaxy

[Juub]

They made the amazing PC port of Arkham Knight. We can trust them.

[M4son]

That port when it was first released it was beyond unplayable. Also there's not a single update from them since last September, while the official PS blog said in January that PC news are coming soon, so yeah they are responsible for the "hate" they get.

[Behi]

so iron galaxy is in charge of the port entirely without any involvement from naughty dog?

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Behzad:

so iron galaxy is in charge of the port entirely without any involvement from naughty dog?

Yes. PC Ports gets outsourced to a cheap thrid party developer. The same happened with God of War, Santa Monica Studios was not involved, same with Horizon Zero Dawn, and Days Gone too.

Only Nixxes was bought by Sony last year and is now a in house developer but they first port "Spider-Man Remastered" is incredible heavy on the CPU, it's not they best work they did like for Rise of the Tomb Raider and Shadow of the Tomb Raider for example.

[Juub]

Originally posted by Joseph:

Originally posted by Behzad:

so iron galaxy is in charge of the port entirely without any involvement from naughty dog?

Yes. PC Ports gets outsourced to a cheap thrid party developer. The same happened with God of War, Santa Monica Studios was not involved, same with Horizon Zero Dawn, and Days Gone too.

Only Nixxes was bought by Sony last year and is now a in house developer but they first port "Spider-Man Remastered" is incredible heavy on the CPU, it's not they best work they did like for Rise of the Tomb Raider and Shadow of the Tomb Raider for example.

God of War was done by Jetpack Interactive and Sony Santa Monica worked with them for a pretty solid PC port I'd say.

[Derik-For-Real]

Originally posted by Joseph:

Originally posted by Behzad:

so iron galaxy is in charge of the port entirely without any involvement from naughty dog?

Yes. PC Ports gets outsourced to a cheap thrid party developer. The same happened with God of War, Santa Monica Studios was not involved, same with Horizon Zero Dawn, and Days Gone too.

Only Nixxes was bought by Sony last year and is now a in house developer but they first port "Spider-Man Remastered" is incredible heavy on the CPU, it's not they best work they did like for Rise of the Tomb Raider and Shadow of the Tomb Raider for example.

This is so true, I find it funny that there are some who really think, Sony made great PC port throught these thirdparty devs, every single sony pc ports was overal badly optimized for pc no matter what pc spec you have, old or new. Sony pc ports are unimagineable heavy to run for no reason, nd broken graphically settings nd more.

Yeah Spiderman on pc is also pretty demanding, when knowing that the game was build for ps4 hardware. The bad nd very demanding raytracing on this game is also pretty bad compared to console version. It seems Sony has no desire to deliver great pc ports, which is missed opportunity.

Adding on top of that, the insane premium pricing for sony games is just really bad nd a fraud to even support such thing. Its not justifiable in logic.

[Juub]

Originally posted by Broken Devil 2:

Originally posted by Juub:

They made the amazing PC port of Arkham Knight. We can trust them.

They are porting Bloodborne to Nintendo. Will sell one Bloodborbillion copies.

Why don't they port Uncharted 4 first?

[KillingArts]

Originally posted by Derik-For-Real:

The bad nd very demanding raytracing on this game is also pretty bad compared to console version.

Uhm, no. What makes you think that? It's far superior to the PS5 version.

[Broken Devil 2]

Originally posted by Juub:

Originally posted by Broken Devil 2:

They are porting Bloodborne to Nintendo. Will sell one Bloodborbillion copies.

Why don't they port Uncharted 4 first?

It's not a moneymaker sadly, that's why.

[KillingArts]

Originally posted by Broken Devil 2:

Originally posted by Juub:

Why don't they port Uncharted 4 first?

It's not a moneymaker sadly, that's why.

Not a moneymaker? It sold over 15 million copies on PS alone. Pretty sure they made a few bucks. ^^

[Broken Devil 2]

Originally posted by KillingArts:

Originally posted by Broken Devil 2:

It's not a moneymaker sadly, that's why.

Not a moneymaker? It sold over 15 million copies on PS alone. Pretty sure they made a few bucks. ^^

That's bad numbers combined on both PS4 and PS5 sold +100millions consoles.

[KillingArts]

Originally posted by Broken Devil 2:

Originally posted by KillingArts:

Not a moneymaker? It sold over 15 million copies on PS alone. Pretty sure they made a few bucks. ^^

That's bad numbers combined on both PS4 and PS5 sold +100millions consoles.

No, it's not combined. It was 16 million in 2019, before the PS5 was released.

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/10/14/the-last-of-us-sales-uncharted-4-sales/

16 million is very good for any game.

[Broken Devil 2]

Originally posted by KillingArts:

Originally posted by Broken Devil 2:

That's bad numbers combined on both PS4 and PS5 sold +100millions consoles.

No, it's not combined. It was 16 million in 2019, before the PS5 was released.

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/10/14/the-last-of-us-sales-uncharted-4-sales/

16 million is very good for any game.

Total PS4 sold 117.2 millions, PS5 20millions,

137.2millions PS4&5, that's not even close to 15% players console owners, who bought the game.

Pretty bad numbers tbh 16 millions out of 137.2 millions consoles sold.

[KillingArts]

Originally posted by Broken Devil 2:

Originally posted by KillingArts:

No, it's not combined. It was 16 million in 2019, before the PS5 was released.

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/10/14/the-last-of-us-sales-uncharted-4-sales/

16 million is very good for any game.

Total PS4 sold 117.2 millions, PS5 20millions,

137.2millions PS4&5, that's not even close to 15% players console owners, who bought the game.

Pretty bad numbers tbh 16 millions out of 137.2 millions consoles sold.

That's not how it works. I don't know what you expect. If there are 117 million people with a PS4, you expect like half of them to buy a specific game? Just compare the number to other games, and be aware if you compare to exclusive or multi-platform games. Most multi-platform titles can't even sell 16 million. That number for an exclusive game is not bad. Sure, you can find games that sold more. But pretty sure on average a AAA title sells less than that. So even if it's not on GTA 5 level, it still sold well and was certainly a "moneymaker".

Have a look at this chart. Uncharted 4 did pretty well back then as the second-best selling title for PS4 in 2016.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/516598/best-selling-video-game-ps4-global-unit-sales/

[Broken Devil 2]

Originally posted by KillingArts:

Originally posted by Broken Devil 2:

Total PS4 sold 117.2 millions, PS5 20millions,

137.2millions PS4&5, that's not even close to 15% players console owners, who bought the game.

Pretty bad numbers tbh 16 millions out of 137.2 millions consoles sold.

That's not how it works. I don't know what you expect. If there are 117 million people with a PS4, you expect like half of them to buy a specific game? Just compare the number to other games, and be aware if you compare to exclusive or multi-platform games. Most multi-platform titles can't even sell 16 million. That number for an exclusive game is not bad. Sure, you can find games that sold more. But pretty sure on average a AAA title sells less than that. So even if it's not on GTA 5 level, it still sold well and was certainly a "moneymaker".

Have a look at this chart. Uncharted 4 did pretty well back then as the second-best selling title for PS4 in 2016.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/516598/best-selling-video-game-ps4-global-unit-sales/

I have already proved. Pasting links doesn't improve sales.

If a game was made at budget of $50 million, then sold a total of 1,500,000 copies at $60 price still ranked no 1, doesn't make it a good investment at all in from business perspective.

Out of 137.2 million consoles if atleast Exclusives doesn't sale atleast 35 million (25% of sold consoles) copies. Profitable but not satisfied sales from business point of view.

[KillingArts]

Originally posted by Broken Devil 2:

I have already proved. Pasting links doesn't improve sales.

You have proved? Where? Show me. I don't see any proof in your posts. Links don't improve sales, but they provide knowledge, which is preferable to wild guessing.

Originally posted by Broken Devil 2:

If a game was made at budget of $50 million, then sold a total of 1,500,000 copies at $60 price still ranked no 1, doesn't make it a good investment at all in from business perspective.

True, but it didn't sell 1.5 million, it sold 16 million. Very different story.

Originally posted by Broken Devil 2:

Out of 137.2 million consoles if atleast Exclusives doesn't sale atleast 35 million (25% of sold consoles) copies. Profitable but not satisfied sales from business point of view.

Where did you come up with that number? 25%? That's ridiculous. Show me any game that sold that much. In fact, according to this list no game ever did that on the PS4:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_4_video_games

Best selling PS4 game was God of War with 19.5 million. A failure in your mind then? Uncharted 4 is third on the list, by the way.

Originally posted by Broken Devil 2:

Originally posted by Juub:

Why don't they port Uncharted 4 first?

It's not a moneymaker sadly, that's why.

Ironically, on that list above you can see that Uncharted 4 sold more copies than Spider-Man.