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Akira Oct 25, 2022 @ 4:00am
AVX2 protects games better than Denuvo
As Sony thought, people who have a processor 10-13 years old will not buy this game, because they have no money, or they are just greedy. Therefore, they introduced AVX2 it into the game to protect against piracy. On the other hand, there are those who bought this game, and are faced with the fact that the game does not start due to the old processor. Does Sony think these people will upgrade because of this game? No, these people will just make a refund. I also wanted to buy this game, but after reading the reviews I realized that my processor does not fit even in the minimum recommendations.
I never thought I'd say this, but Sony would have been better off with denuvo. I didn’t lose anything, I played the original back in 2015 on PS4, and the sequel with Chloe in 2017.
Characteristics of my PC.
Win 11 Pro
Cpu i7 3770 oc 4.4 Ghz
Mobo Gigabyte Z77
Ram 16 Gb DDR3 1886
Gpu Gigabyte RTX 2080 Gaming oc
SSD Kingstone 256
SSD Samsung 512
HDD 8Tb
PSU ASUS ROG STRIX 1000W Gold

All games that came out to this day. I play 4k on max settings. For example, the recently released A Plague Tale: Requiem works for me at maximum settings in 4 resolution and with DLSS for quality 37-43 fps. If you lower the resolution to 2k, the game gives out steel 60 fps. Yes, the 3770 is a very old processor, but it can still give out not a bad fps in games. If I had the choice to do a full system upgrade, but without a video card, or to put everything in my computer 2080 to 4090, I would choose the RTX 4090 and it would work with my old 3770) Good luck everyone, and thanks for taking the time to read everything I wrote) Take care.
Last edited by Akira; Oct 25, 2022 @ 4:38am
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Komarimaru Oct 25, 2022 @ 4:31am 
No, they have AVX2 for performance. You using outdated hardware is on you. And considering the 4090 gets bottlenecked on a 13900K at times, and your PC is so old the PSU may blow up even attempting a 30 series or 40 series... Ya...
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Akira Oct 25, 2022 @ 4:37am 
Originally posted by Komarimaru:
No, they have AVX2 for performance. You using outdated hardware is on you. And considering the 4090 gets bottlenecked on a 13900K at times, and your PC is so old the PSU may blow up even attempting a 30 series or 40 series... Ya...
I forgot to write about PSU, thanks for reminding me) I had problems with the video card, so a year ago I changed PSU.
Last edited by Akira; Oct 25, 2022 @ 4:40am
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GameBunny77 Oct 25, 2022 @ 4:43am 
All that crying because you are stuck on an old processor released more then 10 years ago and it is now Sony's fault. Learn to take some ownership of issue on your own part chief.
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Komarimaru Oct 25, 2022 @ 4:52am 
Heck, for the price of their 2080, they could have bought a 2070 instead, and upgraded their mobo, ram and CPU... Then later on changed the 2070 out for a 3080.
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Akira Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:00am 
Originally posted by GameBunny77:
All that crying because you are stuck on an old processor released more then 10 years ago and it is now Sony's fault. Learn to take some ownership of issue on your own part chief.
Yes, it's Sony's fault. They added to protect the game, and choke the old processors.
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EmersonEm Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by GameBunny77:
Just because of this game, NO one will buy a new processor for themselves
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Akira Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by Komarimaru:
Heck, for the price of their 2080, they could have bought a 2070 instead, and upgraded their mobo, ram and CPU... Then later on changed the 2070 out for a 3080.
Look, you don't have the right to tell me what to do, what to buy and what not to. Communicate respectfully.
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Dante Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:03am 
Denuvo never protects a game. Pirates are never gonna buy the game anyway....and Denuvo doesnt make sales, quality does which has been proven time and time again.
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ecznos Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:04am 
You are using a i7 3770 with RTX 2080? LMAO.

Originally posted by Akira:
and it would work with my old 3770

Every GPU will work. The thing is, you won't get the full performance because your CPU is slow as a turtle. There will be a huge bottleneck.
Last edited by ecznos; Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:05am
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Komarimaru Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:06am 
Originally posted by Akira:
Originally posted by Komarimaru:
Heck, for the price of their 2080, they could have bought a 2070 instead, and upgraded their mobo, ram and CPU... Then later on changed the 2070 out for a 3080.
Look, you don't have the right to tell me what to do, what to buy and what not to. Communicate respectfully.
What? How is stating a fact, disrespectful? Your system is bottle necked and old. You chose the wrong upgrade path, thus you chose poorly.
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Akira Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:10am 
Originally posted by Komarimaru:
Originally posted by Akira:
Look, you don't have the right to tell me what to do, what to buy and what not to. Communicate respectfully.
What? How is stating a fact, disrespectful? Your system is bottle necked and old. You chose the wrong upgrade path, thus you chose poorly.
You think I don't know that my processor is weak? And that on the same I would get more FPS on i3 12100? I know that. The topic was created not about what kind of computer I have. And that introduction AVX2 is a bad idea.
Last edited by Akira; Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:11am
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Komarimaru Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by Akira:
Originally posted by Komarimaru:
What? How is stating a fact, disrespectful? Your system is bottle necked and old. You chose the wrong upgrade path, thus you chose poorly.
You think I don't know that my processor is weak? And that on the same I would get more FPS om i3 1200? I know that. The topic was created not about what kind of computer I have. And that introduction AVX2 is a bad idea.
AVX is always a good idea, since gives nice performance increase. The downside is, older hardware can't use various stages of AVX, and people who overclock will crash if they don't know about AVX offset with Intel to adjust it properly.
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Piano man Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by Akira:
If I had the choice to do a full system upgrade, but without a video card, or to put everything in my computer 2080 to 4090, I would choose the RTX 4090 and it would work with my old 3770) Good luck everyone, and thanks for taking the time to read everything I wrote) Take care.

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Guarantee the second you drop your 4090 into that bucket of bolts you have, you are NOT getting any extra performance. You'd waste almost $2K on a graphics card and be COMPLETELY bottlenecked by the CPU. This has been proven even by Digital Foundry who found that at times games weren't performing well because they were being bottlenecked on a Intel 12900K (and no offence, your CPU is over a decade old... I know this because I bought a PC which had an Intel 3930K back in 2012.

Originally posted by Akira:
I never thought I'd say this, but Sony would have been better off with denuvo.

You're wrong - NO GAME is better with Denuvo. People don't pirate games simply because their copy protection is weak... I'm sure if I tried, I could (maybe) find out how and source some pirated games, but I don't because 1) I easily have the money to buy the games and support the companies
2) I like having the latest patches that usually offer performance patches, and fix game bugs
3) You know there's no dodgy software or keyloggers or whatnot in a proper retail version (except Denuvo) :steamhappy:

Originally posted by Akira:
On the other hand, there are those who bought this game, and are faced with the fact that the game does not start due to the old processor.

Maybe they didn't want customer support to be flooded with morons complaining about poor performance issues due to REDUNDANT hardware.
Last edited by Piano man; Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:26am
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Akira Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:16am 
Originally posted by Komarimaru:
Originally posted by Akira:
You think I don't know that my processor is weak? And that on the same I would get more FPS om i3 1200? I know that. The topic was created not about what kind of computer I have. And that introduction AVX2 is a bad idea.
AVX is always a good idea, since gives nice performance increase. The downside is, older hardware can't use various stages of AVX, and people who overclock will crash if they don't know about AVX offset with Intel to adjust it properly.
That's your opinion. By the way, I said AVX2 not a AVX. My processor does support a AVX1.
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Komarimaru Oct 25, 2022 @ 5:19am 
Originally posted by Akira:
Originally posted by Komarimaru:
AVX is always a good idea, since gives nice performance increase. The downside is, older hardware can't use various stages of AVX, and people who overclock will crash if they don't know about AVX offset with Intel to adjust it properly.
That's your opinion. By the way, I said AVX2 not a AVX. My processor does support a AVX1.
Apologies, but I did mention the various stages of AVX. This means, AVX, AVX2, amd AVX512.

My statement still stands, and not an opinion but a fact. AVX has always led to performance increases in software that uses it.
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