Freelancer Objective Contradiction?

[rich handsome]

Says Headshot Kills Only +500
and another is Melee Weapon Kill +1000 .

So can I do both or is this not possible?

[Material Defender]

If you read the full details of the "headshot kills only" it says any kill with a gun must be the head. it does NOT fail if you use a different kind of kill, 2 examples are drowning the target in a toilet or by poison.

[Rudiger]

You can get objectives that are not possible to complete. Mainly if you choose the showdown location where it says to do an explosive kill and melee kill for example.
Don't worry about it too much and just enjoy playing.

[Material Defender]

I forgot to mention on my last reply, 47's hands counts as a "melee weapon," specifically, one that doesn't have rarity.

It's easier and quieter to snap the neck while already unconscious, but you can still snap the neck during a subdue from behind without pacifying, if you also have an objective to not pacify.

[supersand]

Headshot Kills Only is a weird objective...just treat it like No Firearms or only headshot people with guns and you will pass it. They need to rename it because it is confusing.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by supersand:

Headshot Kills Only is a weird objective...just treat it like No Firearms or only headshot people with guns and you will pass it. They need to rename it because it is confusing.

Or you could just read the objective and it wont' be confusing

[supersand]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Originally posted by supersand:

Headshot Kills Only is a weird objective...just treat it like No Firearms or only headshot people with guns and you will pass it. They need to rename it because it is confusing.

Or you could just read the objective and it wont' be confusing

yeah because getting a non-headshot kill with a melee weapon and having the objective still complete makes a lot of sense and isn't confusing at all.

Reminds me of "No Firearms" that used to allow the dart guns, it doesn't make sense with the name.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by supersand:

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Or you could just read the objective and it wont' be confusing

yeah because getting a non-headshot kill with a melee weapon and having the objective still complete makes a lot of sense and isn't confusing at all.

It says if a firearm is used it must be a headshot, it says nothing about requiring you to use a firearm for kills.

Just because it requires all of your firearm kills to be headshots, the description says nothing about all of your kills being required as firearms.

Your confusion comes from reading the headline without reading the explanation.

Reminds me of "No Firearms" that used to allow the dart guns, it doesn't make sense with the name.

Dart guns in the real world aren't always firearms, it depends on what they are propelled with.

In game it could easily go either way depending on if the devs bother to define what the dart guns are using to propel the dart.

Dart guns that don't use cartridges/explosive/fire for propulsion aren't firearms, most are just air guns, some even use elastic banding and are more like cylinder slingshots functionally.

So yea, if the devs wanted to say the dartguns aren't firearms that would be fine. The dartguns in game aren't clearly identified by what propulsion system they use, but some do use .22 caliber cartridges, which would make them firearms. But then again the ones in game aren't loud enough and sound like air compressed blow chambers; which wouldn't be firearms.

[supersand]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Originally posted by supersand:

Reminds me of "No Firearms" that used to allow the dart guns, it doesn't make sense with the name.

Dart guns in the real world aren't always firearms, it depends on what they are propelled with.

In game it could easily go either way depending on if the devs bother to define what the dart guns are using to propel the dart.

Dart guns that don't use cartridges/explosive/fire for propulsion aren't firearms, most are just air guns, some even use elastic banding and are more like cylinder slingshots functionally.

So yea, if the devs wanted to say the dartguns aren't firearms that would be fine. The dartguns in game aren't clearly identified by what propulsion system they use, but some do use .22 caliber cartridges, which would make them firearms. But then again the ones in game aren't loud enough and sound like air compressed blow chambers; which wouldn't be firearms.

I mean yeah, you are technically correct, but most people would look at "No Firearms", then look at the dart guns and consider them to be firearms (even if they technically didn't function as firearms). Much in the same way a Guard in the map will look at the Dart gun and consider it a lethal weapon.

It makes the objective harder to understand from a pure gameplay sense, and I feel the "Headshots Only" objective is in a similar camp. It would only be good for the player if the name or description was expanded to better fit what it wants.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by supersand:

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Dart guns in the real world aren't always firearms, it depends on what they are propelled with.

In game it could easily go either way depending on if the devs bother to define what the dart guns are using to propel the dart.

Dart guns that don't use cartridges/explosive/fire for propulsion aren't firearms, most are just air guns, some even use elastic banding and are more like cylinder slingshots functionally.

So yea, if the devs wanted to say the dartguns aren't firearms that would be fine. The dartguns in game aren't clearly identified by what propulsion system they use, but some do use .22 caliber cartridges, which would make them firearms. But then again the ones in game aren't loud enough and sound like air compressed blow chambers; which wouldn't be firearms.

I mean yeah, you are technically correct, but most people would look at "No Firearms", then look at the dart guns and consider them to be firearms (even if they technically didn't function as firearms). Much in the same way a Guard in the map will look at the Dart gun and consider it a lethal weapon.

It makes the objective harder to understand from a pure gameplay sense, and I feel the "Headshots Only" objective is in a similar camp. It would only be good for the player if the name or description was expanded to better fit what it wants.

The description says all shots taken must be headshots.

It doesn't say all kills must be with firearms.

It is clear.

[supersand]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

The description says all shots taken must be headshots.

It doesn't say all kills must be with firearms.

It is clear.

I just think changing the name to "Firearm Shots - Headshot Only" would be much more clear and easier to understand without fundamentally changing anything

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by supersand:

Originally posted by Kunovega:

The description says all shots taken must be headshots.

It doesn't say all kills must be with firearms.

It is clear.

I just think changing the name to "Firearm Kills - Headshot Only" would be much more clear and easier to understand without fundamentally changing anything

That doesn't suggest anything different from what it already says.