How do you do silent assassin if target is in crowd?

[PewPew]

For the freelance mode. No bodies can be found, yet it's impossible to isolate target. I tried the collector poison guns, but I get detected no matter what.

[DyD&Marina]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Debosy:

I played a lot, i guess i have not yet this specific situation in my playtrough.
But then if it ruin permamently SA then it is bug i guess because in normal mode you recover SA rank in this situation.

Not sure because i usually stay away from silent assassin considered the problem sometimes can happen with emetic poisoned AI behaviour.

But i start to be bored so i started to do challenges, so was the first time i tried in freelancer to use melee weapon with silent assassin active, but in this occasion not ended well.


For fun seems not all the bugs or problems are negative.

I rushed this marrakesh mission because too few target was compatible to be killed with katana, all good and finished.

But the exp they gived to me was strange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDsQQFLi8Pg

The "Obbiettivo di prestigio completato" is italian way to say prestige objective completed.

In this mission i not have an prestige objective.

Free exp:)

[Debosy]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Debosy:

I played a lot, i guess i have not yet this specific situation in my playtrough.
But then if it ruin permamently SA then it is bug i guess because in normal mode you recover SA rank in this situation.

Not sure because i usually stay away from silent assassin considered the problem sometimes can happen with emetic poisoned AI behaviour.

I can confirm that body spotted by target cannot ruin Silent Assassin rank at all.
Prestige Objective do not react on that.

I also tried to subdue NPC in front of target, and nothing happen too.
So as long you dont attack target in toilet first SA rank is safe (target can be witness, NPC not). With that fact even if you have "guest" in toilet which puke you are still safe of course if you have place to hide non-target NPC, if not below is solution for that situations too.

Alternative way is to use tranqualiser , and then even if guards find a bodies you still keep SA (only if you not touch a body, if you try drag it then if someone find it SA rank will be ruined. So if you used tranqualiser leave the body as it is.)
https://youtu.be/P6xtbATnOjA

[Mazey]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

I already posted video of bugs, your problem of accept this bugs will not change the situation.

You keep saying this, but you haven't.
The only videos you've given related to your claims about the emetic poison show the poison working exactly as it should.

Saying you've posted videos over and over, doesn't mean you have actually posted your claimed videos.

[DyD&Marina]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mazey:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

I already posted video of bugs, your problem of accept this bugs will not change the situation.

You keep saying this, but you haven't.
The only videos you've given related to your claims about the emetic poison show the poison working exactly as it should.

Saying you've posted videos over and over, doesn't mean you have actually posted your claimed videos.

This is the problem the "as is should" don't work with the freelancer gamemode and silent assassin prestige quest.

Because isn't a problem if you can't do silent assassin in normal game if a target choiced to puke in front of people.

But you lost entire campaign if a npc do this in freelancer with silent assassin prestige quest.

Developers should have added the right AI behaviour to prevent this problem, if isn't a bug.

Is depressing to see this situation even in showdown, luckily i wasn't trying silent assassin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7diYjbBNVA

[DyD&Marina]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Debosy:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

Not sure because i usually stay away from silent assassin considered the problem sometimes can happen with emetic poisoned AI behaviour.

I can confirm that body spotted by target cannot ruin Silent Assassin rank at all.
Prestige Objective do not react on that.

I also tried to subdue NPC in front of target, and nothing happen too.
So as long you dont attack target in toilet first SA rank is safe (target can be witness, NPC not). With that fact even if you have "guest" in toilet which puke you are still safe of course if you have place to hide non-target NPC, if not below is solution for that situations too.

Alternative way is to use tranqualiser , and then even if guards find a bodies you still keep SA (only if you not touch a body, if you try drag it then if someone find it SA rank will be ruined. So if you used tranqualiser leave the body as it is.)
https://youtu.be/P6xtbATnOjA

So probably was because i was late and frontally slashed with katana even if not really see me or alerted someone else.

I was silent but not enough silent.

The problem is i'm doing the katana achievement, so i'm a bit restricted in the way i can kill them.

I will wait to try again silent assassin prestige until i not finished the katana challenge.

[Mazey]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7diYjbBNVA

There are no bugs there. That is exactly how everyone has told you emetic poison works from the start and then you insisted it was bugged.

That is not a bug. That is the game. There is nothing wrong there. You have, yet again, just shown a video that shows the game working perfectly.

[DyD&Marina]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mazey:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7diYjbBNVA

There are no bugs there. That is exactly how everyone has told you emetic poison works from the start and then you insisted it was bugged.

That is not a bug. That is the game. There is nothing wrong there. You have, yet again, just shown a video that shows the game working perfectly.

So is normal to lose because the AI randomly choice to puke in front of people instead of go on one of the many empty bathrooms.

Basically the gamemode is not about planning and control but is about luck if a player use the prestige quest silent assassin.

So you are saying Developers have lied, ok.

[Debosy]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

This is the problem the "as is should" don't work with the freelancer gamemode and silent assassin prestige quest.

ecause isn't a problem if you can't do silent assassin in normal game if a target choiced to puke in front of people.

But you lost entire campaign if a npc do this in freelancer with silent assassin prestige quest.
Developers should have added the right AI behaviour to prevent this problem, if isn't a bug.
Is depressing to see this situation even in showdown, luckily i wasn't trying silent assassin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7diYjbBNVA

But who tells she can't. Emetic was not designed to give player 100% easy kill always in close combat. It was designed to move target somwhere to less crowded place, but "less crowded" doesnt mean "empty".

In this specific case you could do in incredibly easy way. Stand behind her and throw something to turn two NPC around, too force them too look for this 2-3 seconds in opposite direction and just push her.

Second thing you could do right here was preparing Propane flask and throw it next to her to create a gas leak and just shoot it from the distance or detonate it by taser. It give you no alert and not ruin any SA rank.

If you really NEED TO USE SPECIFIC WAY TO KILL, you could just wait until she finish and lure her by coin on staircase and finish her there.

[DyD&Marina]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Debosy:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

This is the problem the "as is should" don't work with the freelancer gamemode and silent assassin prestige quest.

ecause isn't a problem if you can't do silent assassin in normal game if a target choiced to puke in front of people.

But you lost entire campaign if a npc do this in freelancer with silent assassin prestige quest.
Developers should have added the right AI behaviour to prevent this problem, if isn't a bug.
Is depressing to see this situation even in showdown, luckily i wasn't trying silent assassin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7diYjbBNVA

But who tells she can't. Emetic was not designed to give player 100% easy kill always in close combat. It was designed to move target somwhere to less crowded place, but "less crowded" doesnt mean "empty".

In this specific case you could do in incredibly easy way. Stand behind her and throw something to turn two NPC around, too force them too look for this 2-3 seconds in opposite direction and just push her.

Second thing you could do right here was preparing Propane flask and throw it next to her to create a gas leak and just shoot it from the distance or detonate it by taser. It give you no alert and not ruin any SA rank.

If you really NEED TO USE SPECIFIC WAY TO KILL, you could just wait until she finish and lure her by coin on staircase and finish her there.

This isn't true, the video i posted yesterday showed emetic poisoned target go in middle of a crowd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyIDmPsB2Ag

I see you not played much this map

Under this rail there are another big group of people can see her and no way to cover the corpse.

Again you seems to forgot the corpse.

No reason to lure her below because there is other people.

I suggest to play the gamemode, maybe you will understand the various problems this poor AI create.

Really Developers was alot lazy in creating Freelancer gamemode.

[supersand]

you guys know you are just feeding a troll right? you will never win

[DyD&Marina]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย supersand:

you guys know you are just feeding a troll right? you will never win

Great another account try trolling.

Here a video of how much lazy/incompetent are Developers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jrFMW2knPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPR8Nb4VmCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0rsQQeRRlA

Incomplete AI and bugs.

[Mazey]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Debosy:

But who tells she can't. Emetic was not designed to give player 100% easy kill always in close combat. It was designed to move target somwhere to less crowded place, but "less crowded" doesnt mean "empty".

In this specific case you could do in incredibly easy way. Stand behind her and throw something to turn two NPC around, too force them too look for this 2-3 seconds in opposite direction and just push her.

Second thing you could do right here was preparing Propane flask and throw it next to her to create a gas leak and just shoot it from the distance or detonate it by taser. It give you no alert and not ruin any SA rank.

If you really NEED TO USE SPECIFIC WAY TO KILL, you could just wait until she finish and lure her by coin on staircase and finish her there.

This isn't true, the video i posted yesterday showed emetic poisoned target go in middle of a crowd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyIDmPsB2Ag

That's not a middle of a crowd. There's four other people. It's easy to lure someone from that position with coins. Not to mention all the positions they would have been in on the walk to and from that place.

I'm going back to my claim that you're suffering from a skill issue.

[Debosy]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

This isn't true, the video i posted yesterday showed emetic poisoned target go in middle of a crowd.
I see you not played much this map

Just stop with this argument.
I played this map hundred of times, done all challenges, masteries, featured contracts, elusive targets there. Content from HITMAN 1 i finished even 3 times on 100% in all three games.

There is no problem with my knowledge of the game. You just completly do not know alternative methods of killing targets and finding synergies between your equipment or advanced NPC behaviors.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

Under this rail there are another big group of people can see her and no way to cover the corpse.
Again you seems to forgot the corpse.
No reason to lure her below because there is other people.

Jeeez.... If there are people there just lure her into circlular flower area and finish her there if first one is to risky lure here to second one far on left side,

If you don't have "No body found" objective it's dont even matter if you use method with propane flask.

[DyD&Marina]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mazey:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

This isn't true, the video i posted yesterday showed emetic poisoned target go in middle of a crowd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyIDmPsB2Ag

That's not a middle of a crowd. There's four other people. It's easy to lure someone from that position with coins. Not to mention all the positions they would have been in on the walk to and from that place.

I'm going back to my claim that you're suffering from a skill issue.

Really you only confirm to have skill issue.

After all only a player never played this map could say something like this.

You should play it before talk.

If you play you know there isn't a way to hide corpse in this place because there are too many people corpse you need to hide.

Really your attempt of trolling are only exposing your lack of knowledge of the game.

[DyD&Marina]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Debosy:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

This isn't true, the video i posted yesterday showed emetic poisoned target go in middle of a crowd.
I see you not played much this map

Just stop with this argument.
I played this map hundred of times, done all challenges, masteries, featured contracts, elusive targets there. Content from HITMAN 1 i finished even 3 times on 100% in all three games.

There is no problem with my knowledge of the game. You just completly do not know alternative methods of killing targets and finding synergies between your equipment or advanced NPC behaviors.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DyD&Marina:

Under this rail there are another big group of people can see her and no way to cover the corpse.
Again you seems to forgot the corpse.
No reason to lure her below because there is other people.

Jeeez.... If there are people there just lure her into circlular flower area and finish her there if first one is to risky lure here to second one far on left side,

If you don't have "No body found" objective it's dont even matter if you use method with propane flask.

Again you confirm to not played freelancer...

You can't lure her because there are a dozen of people around here will react before of her to any object you will throw.

I suggest you to play this map, is called mendoza, maybe you will understand how the game work and what is really possible to do.

But after all you confirmed you not even know how silent assassin work considered you suggested to leave the target corpse in the open.

Really i start to suspect you never played freelancer and never attempted silent assassin or you are simple trolling.