has anyone made mods to make beigoma easier ?

[Miesmann - allkeyshop]

when you do 6 clashes in row and still your top looses...

[Melodia]

You can use Cheat Engine.

[The_Box]

Beigoma's not really got a ton of real strategy to it. Check stats when you're picking, pick better tops, you're likely to win.

Unfortunately, this means it's basically impossible to get through that minigame chain when it first opens, you need to wait until you can get some of the legendary grade beigomas from monster drops and get at least two, letting you win most matches without even doing all that good.

[Miesmann - allkeyshop]

im allmost trought with the baigoma quest line and thats why im asking if theres mods, since 99% baigomas are just for collection and dosnt do anything xDDD and opponents are eating way too many clashes.. i hate button smashing >.<

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Mies-Man:

im allmost trought with the baigoma quest line and thats why im asking if theres mods, since 99% baigomas are just for collection and dosnt do anything xDDD and opponents are eating way too many clashes.. i hate button smashing >.<

Yeah, I just used Cheat Engine to auto-win every match. Still is tedious as ♥♥♥♥.

[Jouchebag]

The minigame only has ONE key "trick." Other than overpowering tops. No reason to do the thing until you have at least 3 Gold Tops. But eventually your adversaries will start to bring all golds as well. That's when you have to use "this one little trick" as the phrase goes.

Save your charge attack thing until the exact moment the opponent has their's charged (they will always use theirs as soon as it's charged) and win all your button-mash clashes.

The best advise I can give for button mashing is to use a forefinger or middle finger on the button (not the thumb) and use the least amount of effort/pressure to pop the button with tiny little taps. Turn your hand over, lock your hand position, and use your wrist to provide the motion. Not your fingers.

And if you can't win the button mashes, yeah. Use cheat engine.

[ratedrpersona]

seriously?? Just go to Djikstra's dungeon. It has THREE big begiomas to catch. They are all of Kaiju type monsters like Nidhogg/Hydra/Earthdragon. With these 3 you will stomp everyone. There is also Corpse Rider from the earlier situation when Ahbraht got invaded by the Undead. If you need cheats on this it just means you dont have these 4 tops i mentioned. It becomes super easy mark my words

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by ratedrpersona:

seriously?? Just go to Djikstra's dungeon. It has THREE big begiomas to catch. They are all of Kaiju type monsters like Nidhogg/Hydra/Earthdragon. With these 3 you will stomp everyone. There is also Corpse Rider from the earlier situation when Ahbraht got invaded by the Undead. If you need cheats on this it just means you dont have these 4 tops i mentioned. It becomes super easy mark my words

Even using those beigomas, the last few people you have to face also use equivalent, powerful beigoma, so you will HAVE to win some button-mashing clashes. That is the only way.

It does not stay "super easy" even though those gold beigoma let you stomp the weaker players.

[ratedrpersona]

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Originally posted by ratedrpersona:

seriously?? Just go to Djikstra's dungeon. It has THREE big begiomas to catch. They are all of Kaiju type monsters like Nidhogg/Hydra/Earthdragon. With these 3 you will stomp everyone. There is also Corpse Rider from the earlier situation when Ahbraht got invaded by the Undead. If you need cheats on this it just means you dont have these 4 tops i mentioned. It becomes super easy mark my words

Even using those beigomas, the last few people you have to face also use equivalent, powerful beigoma, so you will HAVE to win some button-mashing clashes. That is the only way.

It does not stay "super easy" even though those gold beigoma let you stomp the weaker players.

Its as easy as it gets. Dont have to mash buttons except when both players hit boost at the same time which tends to favor Nowa anyway. Dont remember losing any clash once, in fact I always look forward to it as it is an opening for easy high damage. Only the water girl won against this combo of 3 begioma once. Crash is easily beaten despite having 3 rainbow tops. Look at any FAQ they will tell you the same thing. Try to get better instead of using 'cheat engine'. Its unbecoming of a gamer lets be real.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by ratedrpersona:

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Even using those beigomas, the last few people you have to face also use equivalent, powerful beigoma, so you will HAVE to win some button-mashing clashes. That is the only way.

It does not stay "super easy" even though those gold beigoma let you stomp the weaker players.

Its as easy as it gets. Dont have to mash buttons except when both players hit boost at the same time which tends to favor Nowa anyway. Dont remember losing any clash once, in fact I always look forward to it as it is an opening for easy high damage. Only the water girl won against this combo of 3 begioma once. Crash is easily beaten despite having 3 rainbow tops. Look at any FAQ they will tell you the same thing. Try to get better instead of using 'cheat engine'. Its unbecoming of a gamer lets be real.

I didn't use Cheat Engine. I did it in game and without clash I could not beat Crash. I looked at guides, I had all other beigoma, and the guides said you would have to win clashes to beat him. The button mashing against Crash was tough even for my experienced hands and there are topics here from people with disabilities or just slow fingers that struggled.

[The_Box]

To kind of wade into this Beigoma thing, surely we can all agree that the minigame just isn't that well designed. Even if you can just get these tops from that one dungeon and even if you could just win with those tops, that's not good design. The idea that you open a minigame near the very start of the game, but get effectively locked out of it until the end game because you need access to monsters that aren't even related to the quest is bad design.

[ratedrpersona]

Considering how weak Reid is, the process needed to recruit him is tedious. He should have joined way earlier without having to beat so many spinadiers. Reyna who is a beast in war and party is way easier to recruit and it doesnt feel appropriate. Put it this way: I wont be upset if they remove begioma and sh'arc race but improved on eggfoot race, cook off and fishing instead.

After just completing this game yesterday it feels 505/R&B try to do too many things but neglect the core game. Its like a restaurant that tries to do too many dishes at the price of overall quality. (Dracare was a joke even compared to the 3 headed puppy that was Suikoden 2's "Beast Rune")

[The_Box]

Originally posted by ratedrpersona:

Considering how weak Reid is, the process needed to recruit him is tedious. He should have joined way earlier without having to beat so many spinadiers. Reyna who is a beast in war and party is way easier to recruit and it doesnt feel appropriate. Put it this way: I wont be upset if they remove begioma and sh'arc race but improved on eggfoot race, cook off and fishing instead.

After just completing this game yesterday it feels 505/R&B try to do too many things but neglect the core game. Its like a restaurant that tries to do too many dishes at the price of overall quality. (Dracare was a joke even compared to the 3 headed puppy that was Suikoden 2's "Beast Rune")

Honestly it just fell victim to the feature bloat that came from Kickstarter overfunding and a ton of stretch goals I don't think they really expected to it. It committed them to a ton of minigames that I don't think they'd ever actually considered how to implement, and wound up adding them largely as an afterthought because they remembered the goals later in development.