Please just make a pinned topic for the Translation stuff

[Star Sage]

And then start deleting the threads for complaints about it, because this is getting totally out of hand, and these people are just trolls 9 times out of 10 anyway, latching onto some perceived notion out of stupidity, simple follow the leader mentality, or in that rare case, actively malicious. Some of us have REAL topics we want to bring up in regards to the game, or discussions to be had in regards to the story, gameplay, and other such things.

[The_Box]

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To say nothing of just how much umbrage he's taken at the suggestion. Like, it's the one and only time I've ever suggested an alt account for someone, because it was the exact same behavior from an account that had never really been active here doing what he'd been getting called out for for a few days. When, previously, he'd been the only one doing that.

And he's acting like I've been accusing everybody of being his alts or something. It's weird just how much offense he's taking and how much he's over-reacting when he could have just said, 'Nah, that's not me.' The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I'm confused about who you're talking about

Who is it?

Working from the assumption that this is asked in good faith, a localisation bad thread that had been dead for three weeks got bumped out of nowhere by somebody who'd had no activity on the forums prior to that, in a way that added nothing to the discussion and just brought it back to the front page.

The user Complete Domination has been doing that every night for the past week or two. They'll find one or two localisation threads that went dead 2-3 weeks prior, from around page 35 of the forums, and bump them back up to the front page without adding anything to the conversation. He'll then often delete his bumping comment afterwards to give the illusion that it's multiple people, as you encountered in a thread that people accused you of bumping, when it turned out CD did it and then just deleted his post after you replied.

Since it matched the behavior, was from a new user who'd never posted here before and hadn't posted on Steam at all for a couple years, and was at around the same time CD usually does that, I suggested--Well I'll be fair and say I outright accused this user of being CD on a smurf account.

Interestingly, the original user never posted again to refute the claim. CD started posting and that original user went silent after their one and only post in these forums bumping a 3-week dead thread, at about the same time CD started losing his mind and ranting in multiple threads about how I've been accusing people of being him all the time.

EDIT: In the interest of being honest and accurate, I did just go and double check that user and I was incorrect to say they hadn't posted on Steam in a couple years. They do have a semi-consistent posting history. But it's typically just one-off posts in different forums with no ongoing engagement and it's also typically sensationalist stuff that people would be likely to call them out for. It may possibly be unreasonable to state they're absolutely a smurf owned by CD, but the posting history does suggest they are a smurf for someone.

[Roundabout]

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[roachit]

Non-paranoid explanation: someone sees the many comparison screenshots of the horrendous localization circulating throughout twitter, googles "Eiyuden Chronicle localization", the top results are threads on the Steam forums filled with terrible takes defending the localization and they feel compelled to reply to the stupid without checking the date.

[Roundabout]

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Non-paranoid explanation: someone sees the many comparison screenshots of the horrendous localization circulating throughout twitter, googles "Eiyuden Chronicle localization", the top results are threads on the Steam forums filled with terrible takes defending the localization and they feel compelled to reply to the stupid without checking the date.

If it was just this "Eiyuden Chronicle" game forum then you would have a point. The account was posting in half a dozen steam game forums right before or right after the most vocal poster in these forums. ;)

One shows up, the other shows up a few mins later, over a dozen times. Like Clark Kent disappearing into a phone booth to get changed into Superman lol

Many of the posts have since been deleted.

[The_Box]

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Non-paranoid explanation: someone sees the many comparison screenshots of the horrendous localization circulating throughout twitter, googles "Eiyuden Chronicle localization", the top results are threads on the Steam forums filled with terrible takes defending the localization and they feel compelled to reply to the stupid without checking the date.

Yeah, except what he commented didn't have anything to do with the game or thread, it just said the OP had a nice tim and eric PFP.

[Roundabout]

It's one main and 2 alts doing the bumping. Some of their more blatant post history has since been deleted. Hopefully the mods will take action.

[Wolfman-RIP]

I see that Omegas thread got locked and now their post here that just repeated one line of what box said about a bump post being deleted got this message? "This comment is awaiting analysis by our automated content check system. It will be temporarily hidden until we verify that it does not contain harmful content "

They were right about some people abusing the report button whenever there's attention drawn to people using private alt accounts to bump old localization threads. Some people not realising that by doing that your proving that box and omega was right all along.

This is really getting out of hand at this point.

[Raelic]

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I see that Omegas thread got locked and now their post here that just repeated one line of what box said about a bump post being deleted got this message? "This comment is awaiting analysis by our automated content check system. It will be temporarily hidden until we verify that it does not contain harmful content "

They were right about some people abusing the report button whenever there's attention drawn to people using private alt accounts to bump old localization threads. Some people not realising that by doing that your proving that box and omega was right all along.

This is really getting out of hand at this point.

That's just steam. It has nothing to do with the reporting. The post was never revealed, but you can quote them and see what they wrote.

Steam has had this issue for a very long time. You'll also randomly start getting notifications for these posts in a month or so after they are revealed.

[Complete Domination]

Maybe, and here's a big whoop, people who posted across those different threads actually *agreed* that localization of this game is terribad and unprofessional, and you, having no argument whatsoever with childish mentality and a nasty temper, decides that everyone not agreeing with you is actually same person? Like come on, how arrogant can you be to think that EVERYONE must agree with you and those who don't are some kind of evil agent out to get you and your e-fragility?

Also don't think I haven't seen how some posters here bumped the thread before deleting your own comment after someone replied and start whinging about thread necros. Are you trying to be a clown?

Not to mention I'd imagine steam moderators could easily check if people who are posting here are using alts or not and from what I've seen about marketers and their scummy practices of astroturfing I wouldn't ever be surprised if we're having pot calling kettle black situation here.

[The_Box]

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Maybe, and here's a big whoop, people who posted across those different threads actually *agreed* that localization of this game is terribad and unprofessional, and you, having no argument whatsoever with childish mentality and a nasty temper, decides that everyone not agreeing with you is actually same person? Like come on, how arrogant can you be to think that EVERYONE must agree with you and those who don't are some kind of evil agent out to get you and your e-fragility?

Also don't think I haven't seen how some posters here bumped the thread before deleting your own comment after someone replied and start whinging about thread necros. Are you trying to be a clown?

Not to mention I'd imagine steam moderators could easily check if people who are posting here are using alts or not and from what I've seen about marketers and their scummy practises of inflating a product's image I wouldn't ever be surprised if we're having pot calling kettle black situation here.

... Are you trying to play the card that people who don't have issues with the localisation themselves posted to bump localisation bad threads, waited for you to reply in a way that doesn't respond to them at all, and then they deleted their comment and started whining about how you bumped the thread instead, having expertly walked you into a trap to make it look like you were bumping threads instead? And they managed to do it over and over, without you ever calling it out, until now?

Because that's crazy nonsense that doesn't make any sense at all.

EDIT: I also don't think everyone needs to agree with me. Despite our different views, I've gotten along just fine with ArtificialQT, Raelic, Duradan, and several others. It's the people here fighting a culture war that doesn't really care about right or wrong, and who are fairly obvious bad actors, that I really don't get along with.

[Complete Domination]

It's really funny how so far I haven't ever directly named anyone yet a certain someone suddenly felt so defensive they started spewing a bunch of topic-irrelevant nonsense. Somehow I think it's less of "translation stuff" that they care very much here and more about their own worthless ego.

[The_Box]

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It's really funny how so far I haven't ever directly named anyone yet a certain someone suddenly felt so defensive they started spewing a bunch of topic-irrelevant nonsense. Somehow I think it's less of "translation stuff" that they care very much here and more about their own worthless ego.

Nor did I. I didn't think you were talking about me specifically, I just noticed you were spouting some theory that is insane nonsense and responded to it.

Honestly, I kinda pity you. I tend to pop in because I'm actually playing the game and I comment helping people out with issues while also helping Lynn out with their refinement project.

You're just here to pick fights. You hate the game as it stands and most of its fans, and despite not having or wanting to get the game, you put genuine effort into coming in here every day to bump threads and stir the pot.

[iameatingjam]

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How about we make a 98 page thread on the topic and then when a small, tiny, minority decide they don't like a giant thread with all available information in one place, they all talk about -other- topics within it for 3 pages, and then report it themselves for off-topic to close it?

Oh...we tried that already?

Shame.

Are you talking about that stupid "woke SJW lingo" thread where two unrelated people were having an argument about trans bathrooms?? Are you seriously implying that the idea was that the people arguing in that thread agreed, behind the scenes, to stage an argument and get the thread closed?

Why is everything a conspiracy to you?

Conspiracies make people feel special. There's been studies on it and everything.

[Zio]

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It's one main and 2 alts doing the bumping. Some of their more blatant post history has since been deleted. Hopefully the mods will take action.

Just saying the following as a clarifier and I will not go further into it afer this post, and neither should you, discussing mod behaviour (and bans or lack thereof) at length is the quickest way to get discussions closed. At length is obviously relative, but, you know, keep it short. So here goes...

Can't speak for that particular example but for the most part they are individuals. The patterns and striking resemblances speak for themselves regardless though. In certain cases the same account has wildly varying tone and style, I haven't seen either of them in a while though.

While mods can and will delete posts in locked discussions, users can't. Deleted posts do not draw in mod action. They're treated as non existing and non existing is a non issue. I can't rule out exceptions to the rule but have yet to see any.

Main problem here is it's revolving around a specific cadre and the mods aren't here to actually moderate like you would expect a show host to moderate their guests. Mods only act in accordance to the "community rules and guidelines", or rather, their breaking, AND in relation to community reports. With that I advise you to either drop the subjct or talk in private. If any of you want to do so privately check if you even accept friend requests in your settings, I know I usually turn these off by default. Like guild invites in MMOs they can be quite a pain and everyone forgets things every once in a while.

So stay safe folks, and for those who do, keep enjoying the game!

[Adam]

This thread is no longer relevant to the initial topic, so it has been locked.