so what is all this about the localization

[ace-mos]

i see people rantign about it but no idea what happened

im guessing its the latest griftuber target

[Sard]

Originally posted by tankanidis:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chud

Urban Dictionary, while entertaining, is not a real dictionary. You needn't worry, that word isn't actually a slur, you're fine.

[tankanidis]

Originally posted by Sardaukar:

Originally posted by tankanidis:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chud

Urban Dictionary, while entertaining, is not a real dictionary. You needn't worry, that word isn't actually a slur, you're fine.

Please stop the gas-lighting

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/submission/25071/chud

"New Word Suggestion
1. (noun, derogatory) a derogatory term use to describe a person on the right spectrum of politics (right-winger) "

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chud

"(chiefly US, Internet slang, sometimes derogatory) A person who is on the political right or who holds socio-political views seen as reactionary.

Some chud on Twitter said The Wall Street Journal was liberal propaganda. (pejorative)
Unlike all those cuckservatives in Congress, this guy's a true chud. (positive)"
"Usage notes
(person on political right): Originally a pejorative"

https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthankrayt/comments/197pnpo/can_someone_please_define_what_chud_actually_means/

"A derogatory term for unpleasant right-wingers."

[Sard]

Originally posted by tankanidis:

Please stop the gas-lighting

I think you're confusing insults and slurs, it's not that serious.

[Dagný]

Originally posted by WarWeeny:

https://nitter.poast.org/zakogdo/status/1782340520670527759#m

all you need to know.

That's one more reason to not take any of you seriously. From now on I'll completely ignore anyone complaining about localization.

[archonsod]

Originally posted by Death:

Ah. So standard neckbeard gamer ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? Got it.

Nah, standard Twitter user. That used to communicating via text they forget how important tone is to communication.

[Milky]

ok but why is this in my video game

[+ Sir Lance +]

So basically they didn't faithfully transcribe the original text but instead introduced a bunch of soy soaked reddit tier cringe-posting. I'll be dodging this one til its redone correctly. If I want to cringe I'll just go on reddit but enjoy I guess. Huge fan of suikoden btw.

[[BRE] Ralf]

Honestly, the localization has more problems than just the "woke" elements they added. Often, they tried to change too much in the translation without actually improving anything.

For example, in Brazil, a few years ago, the anime Yu Yu Hakusho was dubbed into Portuguese, and the voice actors did an amazing job. They made some changes to the original script, making it even more enjoyable. The same happened with the Disney movie The Emperor's New Groove a few years later, and the changes actually improved the product, but I do not see the same happening with this game.

One weird moment was when asked for the gender of the golem. It felt totally out of place and didn't fit the tone of the scene at all. I noticed other changes too, especially in the dialogues with Francesca and Lian, which made me find these characters annoying.

I'm not saying the game is completely ruined or that I'll ask for a refund, but maybe these changes are why I'm not feeling the Suikoden vibes like I expected to.

Edit: To be honest I now realized I'm a bit annoyed with lot of characters in this game, the emotions they show in some moments are a bit over the top. I'm not sure if it's because of how the characters were written or because of the translation/localization.

[neolight67]

Originally posted by Kefka Gestahl:

Originally posted by Selphares:

That is not even my main problem, why can american localicers not just do their job and try to be "creative". It is not their own game, every other buisness woud fire them.

It is literally their job to be creative...

No it's not. There job is to translate the dialog as accurately as possible. I don't believe that includes words like chud

[StackzGaming]

Originally posted by mashi81:

Originally posted by WarWeeny:

https://nitter.poast.org/zakogdo/status/1782340520670527759#m

all you need to know.

ok, other than a bit of cringe, this is a pretty good and reasonable adaptation, i've been playing for more than 30years, i've seen much worse, this is good. some people should just grow up

As I said: anyone who played a Working Designs game. it's the same thing. Same exact thing. And they got beat up for it too but held their ground. Which is what should happen here. Don't give in to the true SJW's who just want generic, deadpan, uninteresting characters in every game.

[Faiyez]

Originally posted by inveni_te_ipsum:

Don't give in to the true SJW's who just want generic, deadpan, uninteresting characters in every game.

So Japanese can't write interesting characters—they only stop being generic and deadpan when English localizers "punch up" their dialogue.

What you're implying isn't racist at all.

[tankanidis]

Originally posted by Faiyez:

Originally posted by inveni_te_ipsum:

Don't give in to the true SJW's who just want generic, deadpan, uninteresting characters in every game.

So Japanese can't write interesting characters—they only stop being generic and deadpan when English localizers "punch up" their dialogue.

What you're implying isn't racist at all.

they are Digital Colonisers and Cultural Imperialists

Only 'they' can write a good story with their ResetEra political insults and unprofessional comments, while they post on twitter about how 'far they can get away with it' on their localisations, as some sort of competition

Had they done a professional job with the English localisation here, without the real world political insults or the unprofessional lines, the game would've sold so many more copies then it currently is being sabotaged down to due to activist localisers

The true impact of how badly they sabotaged sales hasn't been felt truly yet as most people had kickstarted the game so were already buyers before knowing this fact, but if they do not course correct and fix this bug/issue in the localisation, then the sequel will sell extremely poorly if it comes out in a similar state

[好的_ricky]

Originally posted by Faiyez:

Originally posted by inveni_te_ipsum:

Don't give in to the true SJW's who just want generic, deadpan, uninteresting characters in every game.

So Japanese can't write interesting characters—they only stop being generic and deadpan when English localizers "punch up" their dialogue.

What you're implying isn't racist at all.

It’s not a localizer’s job to “punch up.” Stop accusing your enemies as being racist when you can barely hide your own bigotry.

[Sayo]

Originally posted by Tagi:

Absolutely being grifted on by grummz and co. Just angry gamers in their silly little culture war looking for reasons to be mad, and a bunch of people claiming to have bought the game now saying they refunded it.

FBPB
/thread

[UltimateTobi]

Originally posted by 好的_ricky:

Originally posted by Faiyez:

So Japanese can't write interesting characters—they only stop being generic and deadpan when English localizers "punch up" their dialogue.

What you're implying isn't racist at all.

It’s not a localizer’s job to “punch up.” Stop accusing your enemies as being racist when you can barely hide your own bigotry.

I think he was being facetious or sarcastic.