I got a response back from R&B Studios regarding the localization.

[Laura Palmer]

It was a basic response, but that’s pretty much what I was expecting.

There’s a very real possibility that they’re just blowing smoke up my ass, but this is still probably the best way to get their attention (in a positive way). Realistically, I doubt we’re going to get an official re-translation. My realistic hopes are that it gets a DeepL translation, and that the specific people responsible for this awful localization become known in the industry as people that insert abysmally cringeworthy “humour”, change the entire personalities of characters, and inject divisive western ideologies into places where it doesn’t belong, and never existed to begin with.

Just as an aside, I’ve been taking Japanese lessons for about 5 years now and although I’m nowhere near fluent, I can at least confirm that the screenshot comparisons you’ve probably seen are accurate, with the possible exception of the golem one. They’re not exaggerating the differences to drum up drama…they really are that bad.

If you do choose to email them (and I recommend you do), be respectful.

Rabbit & Bear Studios email: [e-mail]>

And here is the response I got from the developers:

Thank you for contacting Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes Support Team.

We greatly appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with us.

We will be sure to pass your feedback to the localization team to use as an important point of reference for our operations going forward.

If you have any gameplay-related questions, comments, or concerns, please contact the following support desk.

[Raelic]

Perfect response.

[Fulminare]

The whole industry is filled with these Localizer/Translators pushing their agenda or inserting dialogue that's beyond cringe. The people behind this game aren't the exception they are the rule in this industry. Unless it's gonna be a full A.I translation you'll be stuck with entitled people in the industry pushing their delusions.

https://varishangout.com/index.php?threads/♥♥♥♥♥♥-localizers-general.553/

All these companies are pushing this woke garbage and the only repsone you'll ever get is the automated BS response to pretend they care.

Vote with your wallet for real change!

[Raelic]

Originally posted by Fulminare:

The whole industry is filled with these Localizer/Translators pushing their agenda or inserting dialogue that's beyond cringe. The people behind this game aren't the exception they are the rule in this industry. Unless it's gonna be a full A.I translation you'll be stuck with entitled people in the industry pushing their delusions.

https://varishangout.com/index.php?threads/♥♥♥♥♥♥-localizers-general.553/

All these companies are pushing this woke garbage and the only repsone you'll ever get is the autamated BS response to pretend they care.

Vote with your wallet for real change!

AI isn't your savior. AI isn't some impartial thing. It's flawed just like people.

[GetUrAssToMars]

That was literally the most nothing burger response you can get.

I applaud the effort though.

[Drusain]

Originally posted by Laura Palmer:

If you do choose to email them (and I recommend you do), be respectful.

Rabbit & Bear Studios email: [e-mail]>

Yes, I'm on board.

Originally posted by Laura Palmer:

My realistic hopes are that it gets a DeepL translation

Um, I think I left something at home. I'll come back to you later.

[Fulminare]

Originally posted by Raelic:

Originally posted by Fulminare:

The whole industry is filled with these Localizer/Translators pushing their agenda or inserting dialogue that's beyond cringe. The people behind this game aren't the exception they are the rule in this industry. Unless it's gonna be a full A.I translation you'll be stuck with entitled people in the industry pushing their delusions.

https://varishangout.com/index.php?threads/♥♥♥♥♥♥-localizers-general.553/

All these companies are pushing this woke garbage and the only repsone you'll ever get is the autamated BS response to pretend they care.

Vote with your wallet for real change!

AI isn't your savior. AI isn't some impartial thing. It's flawed just like people.

Eventually A.I will overrule any translator. Right now A.I is still at it's starting point when it comes to translations but eventually even A.I will evolve to understand nuances. Seeing as some of the people in the industry on the localizer side don't even know Japanese in general would make an A.I more suitable to understand that. Which makes it so laughable when they claim the naunce parts against A.U while not even speaking the language themselves and just winging it.

A.I is already being tried for major jobs and soon this will follow, the moment that happens I'll be buying anime games again. Because eventually with spoken Japanese you get the meaning of the text already without the westernization being pushed with long ass lines where there is barely any Japanese spoken.

[Overeagerdragon]

Originally posted by Raelic:

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Tagging you because of the discussion we're having in the other thread that's related.

HERE it works and is perfectly suitable.... and I didn't expect any more or less. This doesn't work for a live-chat though :)

[Space of AIDS]

Originally posted by Raelic:

AI isn't your savior. AI isn't some impartial thing. It's flawed just like people.

While partially true, if the end result will suck either way, at least localizers might have to change careers for something fitting their work ethics, like sitting in a toll booth. And that's a win in my book.

[Raelic]

Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:

Originally posted by Raelic:

<snip>

Tagging you because of the discussion we're having in the other thread that's related.

HERE it works and is perfectly suitable.... and I didn't expect any more or less. This doesn't work for a live-chat though :)

If your expectation is that it 100% stops it, sure it won't work. But, that doesn't mean you should skip the step and just jump straight into banning people.

And it would stop a lot of it.

Another step you could take is banning the actual trolls. The ones that are doing the definition of trolling and responding to all the complaints to get them to defend their complaints. That's trolling, by definition.

And you could set up a threads channel if you truly think things are getting disruptive. The threads would be each individual conversation going on.

But, you're saying they are fine to just ban people.

And that is why the discord is a toxic "Everyone has to be happy" place.

What it's really done is given bullies a place to bully. They know the game, they know they won't be punished, and they know who it's socially acceptable to bully.

[SeraphLance]

I mean, I would barely call that a response.

Realistically though, you're not going to get one. Redoing all the localization and voice work is *way* too expensive to ever be feasible for something that, at least by some objective metric, is a serviceable translation. It may be incorrect and creatively-licensed, but it's not like we're looking at engrish here.

This is something that is going to require a fan translation to get any traction on. Hopefully they do a better job with the sequel, but given how a 505 CM seems to be handling the issue here (extrapolating a bit here as I've only seen them post in one thread), I fear they're taking the Disney approach of calling everyone who criticizes them haters and then wondering why their products aren't doing well.

[GetUrAssToMars]

Originally posted by SeraphLance:

Hopefully they do a better job with the sequel, but given how a 505 CM seems to be handling the issue here (extrapolating a bit here as I've only seen them post in one thread), I fear they're taking the Disney approach of calling everyone who criticizes them haters and then wondering why their products aren't doing well.

Yup. Regardless of how impactful players view the localization as... Their whole job role entails dealing with words and the specificity of their meaning. I think it's pretty intentional what they did. They are paid to be accountable.

"Brigading" is not a term I would use towards your customer base either. It's not hard to guess what their views were like to begin with before they began translation.