Cooking Minigame is Utter Garbage

[Loathing]

What is happening with this minigame?!

Nearly every character hates most foods except their specific food that they love.

I got Iugo who said, 'I'm in the mood for pickled plums' so I made the dish that has pickled plums. He gave it 5, the other judges were 0 1 0.

One character specifically said they love Raclette, so I made raclette. 0 5 1 0?! So I lost....

Almost every dish is like this. If I happen to have the dish that one judge is clearly specifically requesting with their dialog, almost everyone hates every other dish. There doesn't seem to be any logical connection connecting their preferred dish to other dishes. They like raclette, so maybe they like cheesy things? No, no they don't, you idiot.

It is so, so poorly balanced. I cannot even begin to imagine what the person in charge of balancing this was thinking. This goes for almost every system in this game, the fishing, the racing, the dialog, the RTS war battles. Everything seems super basic, lowest common denominator, and balanced on the fly with no time to spare.

I'm taking a break for now. I'm pretty sure I'm not coming back to this dumpster fire. Super disappointed on so many levels. Cheers ya'll.

[pkmis007]

^me used omelet + coconut water win 15/15 too. I don't know how to lose in cooking match

[suikodudeman007]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dynelf:

I don't guarantee an 100% win rate, but I haven't lost once while using:
Appetizer: Poached Egg
Main Course: Fried Egg
Dessert: Omelet
I personally hate eggs, but most people seem to like the Fried Egg and Omelets in the game. The Poached Egg can likely be replaced, but it hasn't failed me yet.

Story-wise I've yet to go into the castle at Hishahn, but I've unlocked every character available to me so far (I think), minus the one for completing all the cooking battles (I mention this to give an idea for what judges I've won against by cooking eggs). I've beaten one "assassin" so far after handing the Scroll of Heaven to Kurtz. And every cook up to and including that battle lost to the Egg dishes, lol.

See, I find omelettes for appetizer and coconut water for dessert to be surefire winners each time lol.

[Mr Fantastic]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Vaelrisian:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mr Fantastic:

It's not fixed at all

Welp, guess I'm switching back over to Infection Free Zone until the Cooking Battles are actually playable, because not even being able to pass the second rival chef after 20+ tries is killing my motivation to keep playing Eiyuden.

Just pick miso soup, fried egg, and omelette every time and you always win with a score of around 40.

As someone said the mini game is bugged, and they only give good scores to starters, when choosing a starter, main and dessert should be part of the game.

[Raelic]

Does noone else actually enjoy that it's so close to Suikoden 2 in this aspect?

[Renyth]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dynelf:

I don't guarantee an 100% win rate, but I haven't lost once while using:
Appetizer: Poached Egg
Main Course: Fried Egg
Dessert: Omelet
I personally hate eggs, but most people seem to like the Fried Egg and Omelets in the game. The Poached Egg can likely be replaced, but it hasn't failed me yet.

Story-wise I've yet to go into the castle at Hishahn, but I've unlocked every character available to me so far (I think), minus the one for completing all the cooking battles (I mention this to give an idea for what judges I've won against by cooking eggs). I've beaten one "assassin" so far after handing the Scroll of Heaven to Kurtz. And every cook up to and including that battle lost to the Egg dishes, lol.

Accidentally did this from the 2nd battle onwards, noticed that 2nd chef spammed eggs to high ratings and had enough of losing, messing my hand up cooking the high end stuff, believed in the egg all the way to the end, 0 losses. Eggcellent

[Dynelf]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Renyth:

Eggcellent

Eggsactly!

[Clangeddin.86]

I agree with the OP. This minigame is just garbage.
Basically I've been waltzing to Trey with the same combo of poached egg + fried egg + omelet. Doesn't seem to matter what you put as appetizer, main dish or dessert. It's just best to go with the food with the overall better average scores.

Opponents were scoring laughably low with their exotic foods, one of them scored a flat zero (YES ZERO), while the above combo reliably racks between 25 and 35 points, which is usually more than enough to win.

Now I need to find the scroll of earth, but I agree with the fact that this minigame is just trash.

[Hassohappa]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Raelic:

Does noone else actually enjoy that it's so close to Suikoden 2 in this aspect?

No. I cannot imagine anyone enjoying this. I didn't even remember Suikoden 2 having a cooking contest so I probably took advantage of emulation to speedhack and save state through the whole affair because it's terrible.

There isn't enough information provided to make decisions about what food would be appropriate to prepare, it doesn't seem to have any respect for the categories it asks for to begin with, and it's just an arbitrary unfulfilling skill-less time sink.

[Sex Lobster]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Hassohappa:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Raelic:

Does noone else actually enjoy that it's so close to Suikoden 2 in this aspect?

No. I cannot imagine anyone enjoying this. I didn't even remember Suikoden 2 having a cooking contest so I probably took advantage of emulation to speedhack and save state through the whole affair because it's terrible.

There isn't enough information provided to make decisions about what food would be appropriate to prepare, it doesn't seem to have any respect for the categories it asks for to begin with, and it's just an arbitrary unfulfilling skill-less time sink.

At least in suikoden 2 the mini game had more depth to it. You would pick an item and then you would choose an additional ingredient to make some unique, this game is just pick and choose, tap a, and apparently they need to be all appetizers otherwise you get a low score.

The cook that made "exotic" foods literally got a 0, a whopping 0 all the 3 rounds. This mini game is a joke, its so half assed and long its just a waste of time.

[Neonivek]

Honestly these judges are the worst fictional food judges I ever seen in my life... and you'd think the game would be biased one way or another? NOPE!

Anyhow... I have four foods that in any combination will win the entire cooking contest... Why? Because they are so generic that everyone at least likes them alright.

[Valar Morghulis]

Have you ever played og Suikoden? HAHAHAHAHAHA

[LotR[Henchman]]

Cooking was imo never a great minigame in the series. To a degree due to translations back in S2 afair... So it was mostly a save scumming thing.

I'd say if we ever get an Eiyuden 2 or Suikoden 6 and they do some cook battles, i'd prefer something much more predictable. Meaning i'd like more info on stuff.
Show us if e.g. a Sachertorte is categorised as Sweet, Western, Baked, Cold.
And let us either through interacting with the characters, or using the research characters services or even by having those characters in our group for a while (like it was back in S2 with the unite attacks) learn what characters like.
And just because most of us are lazy bums, have an ingame ledger one can look up known likes/dislikes when choosing what to cook.

[👁]

It was more fun in Suikoden 2 where you had a proper restaurant and it was more flamboyant.

It was the same mechanics though, except you could customize a menu and it was easier to tell appetizers from desserts.

[👁]

If we ever get an Eiyuden 2 I hope there's more attention paid to things like giving the chef an actual restaurant instead of having it be in the tavern, and having a strong villain front and center near the beginning of the game to burn everything down, and a better fishing minigame.

I like Eiyuden Chronicles but in some ways it does feel like a downgrade from Suikoden 2.

Especially the Fishing Minigame, IMHO the best fishing Minigame in any JRPG ever was Breath of Fire 3 and after that Suikoden 2 was a close second, this doesn't even compare it's just press a to catch fish.

[Miesmann - allkeyshop]

i tested like 6 hours this mini game and 99% time when i chose somones preferenced food, the other 3 judges pretty much disliked that 1 guys favourite dish, in the end i had to use the guide gimmics for easy win, omlette ect ect.. i dont know why omlette is so overpowerfull dish i hate it on real life lmao