I'm Just So Sick And Tired Of The BS

[willyml4]

I'm more than a little irked and disappointed in how the translation was handled for Eiyuden Chronicles. I have this game sitting in my Steam library, but can't bring myself to load it up. Not after seeing the changes made with the English localization. Initially, all I wanted was just to spend some time today on a title that I help funded on Kickstarter. It feels too often activists have been coming into this hobby, telling me and other players how problematic character designs are; for the crime of being too ♥♥♥♥, too white, or some white adjacent nonsense. Meandering how long standing lore needs to be changed, as to be more accommodating. Placing apology footnotes and trigger warnings at title screens. Pushing agendas that fit the modern operandis for virtue signalling and self-pompous righteousness. The more you hear about these propaganda peddlers, the faster it is to understand they're a bunch of hypocritical, A-holes looking for undeserved praise. They'll champion one character design just before trouncing on another, for the sake of not meeting their ever changing criteria. Total disdain for the works of others, but they expect accolades for the alterations they bring, to same works. I just wanted to play EC: Hundred Heroes, but F this. I'm done for this evening...

[Kamen Gamer Retro]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Shotoku:

The sheer vanity of those that think they should alter the 'Authorial Voice" for our own good.
Moral arbiters for the less informed.
The astronomic hubris takes your breath away.
This mad head long charge had got to stop.
No one asked for these people to oversight anything!

0 steam level, private, you people need something better to do.

[Iantos]

The game has a Japanese language mode, just play with that if the translation bothers you?

[Hallowedsoul08]

What if I told you there is a mod to fix those translations?

Nexus has it up.

[tankanidis]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Hallowedsoul08:

What if I told you there is a mod to fix those translations?

Nexus has it up.

What if i told you you are just referring to the mods our best community members felt forced to make to fan-fix the English localisation subtitle, it's our very own Lynn's you are referring to

Customers should not be forced to fix the errors of 'professionals'.

If Brian Gray openly states he didn't have time to check all of the localisation, as the lead localiser themselves, then they should take accountability and fix the script themselves now that they are aware of the issues in the version they allowed to go to release

[MaChao]

Diposting pertama kali oleh tankanidis:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Hallowedsoul08:

What if I told you there is a mod to fix those translations?

Nexus has it up.

What if i told you you are just referring to the mods our best community members felt forced to make to fan-fix the English localisation subtitle, it's our very own Lynn's you are referring to

Customers should not be forced to fix the errors of 'professionals'.

If Brian Gray openly states he didn't have time to check all of the localisation, as the lead localiser themselves, then they should take accountability and fix the script themselves now that they are aware of the issues in the version they allowed to go to release

You then run into the issue that other languages are extremely shoddily done, like in my case German, which certainly aren't just Gray's responsibility.

The entire localization process, beyond the English version Brian Gray worked on, is fundamentally flawed.
As mentioned in other posts, the German version borders on an unsupervised machine translation based on the English version, even copying texts that, due to the nature of the German language (non-gendered Vs gendered language) make no sense grammatically.

I hate Brian Gray's work, but singling him out also isn't entirely right.
Yes, his work formed the base of the discussed issues.
But the publisher, 505 Games, isn't blameless. Everything beyond the English version is in a state that should not be sold for 50+ bucks.
It is abundandly clear that they cut corners wherever they could and that there was next to no QA involved in the process.

That's why i've been arguing that this is a fundamentally bad localization. The issues run much deeper than Gray's dumb fluff texts.

[Kegfarms]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Kamen Gamer Retro:

Diposting pertama kali oleh willyml4:

I'm more than a little irked and disappointed in how the translation was handled for Eiyuden Chronicles. I have this game sitting in my Steam library, but can't bring myself to load it up. Not after seeing the changes made with the English localization. Initially, all I wanted was just to spend some time today on a title that I help funded on Kickstarter. It feels too often activists have been coming into this hobby, telling me and other players how problematic character designs are; for the crime of being too ♥♥♥♥, too white, or some white adjacent nonsense. Meandering how long standing lore needs to be changed, as to be more accommodating. Placing apology footnotes and trigger warnings at title screens. Pushing agendas that fit the modern operandis for virtue signalling and self-pompous righteousness. The more you hear about these propaganda peddlers, the faster it is to understand they're a bunch of hypocritical, A-holes looking for undeserved praise. They'll champion one character design just before trouncing on another, for the sake of not meeting their ever changing criteria. Total disdain for the works of others, but they expect accolades for the alterations they bring, to same works. I just wanted to play EC: Hundred Heroes, but F this. I'm done for this evening...

I am a backer as well, and honestly, you are acting like a complete child.
The game is fine
the localization is fine
No one is shoving anything in your face
grow the hell up

Translation: "People are only allowed to complain about something I agree with.

[biodegradable]

The people here treating Brian Gray's work like he's the second coming of Shakespeare. hell man this stuff gets funnier by the day, they aren't even paid they just sit here defend defend defend this worthless localizer who does not care about them lmao..

let us do what we need to do, even fi the localization doesnt change officialy we can discuss fan patches theres no need to come to his defense on his garbage translations. go play your farthead and chud game since its so good and let the adults talk please.

[tankanidis]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Suikoden:

I don't think a single person has claimed the game script is the second coming of Shakespeare, though many who are dis-satisfied with the localization are treating the Localizers like Devil Incarnate, all over some measly words.

Accusing others of wasting time on the forum for a game they appreciate and enjoy playing. Meanwhile you are doing the exact same thing except out of hatred over the localization.

Why not help the Mod Author to finish more quickly so you can get to playing the game faster?

Diposting pertama kali oleh Suikoden:

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Adult's don't go on tirades attacking peoples mental health because they disagree with them.

Why have you made 4+ steam accounts just to argue with people over this topic SinsOfHistory??

[censorship = death :(]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Suikoden:

I don't think a single person has claimed the game script is the second coming of Shakespeare, though many who are dis-satisfied with the localization are treating the Localizers like Devil Incarnate, all over some measly words.

Accusing others of wasting time on the forum for a game they appreciate and enjoy playing. Meanwhile you are doing the exact same thing except out of hatred over the localization.

Why not help the Mod Author to finish more quickly so you can get to playing the game faster?

Diposting pertama kali oleh Suikoden:

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Adult's don't go on tirades attacking peoples mental health because they disagree with them.

i'm sorry but if they can't do their jobs ... i'm sorry but the devil incarnate? maybe there's reason for distrust but your'e theone saying that.

and what are you offering?

[Jeffer'son Airship]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MaChao:

I hate Brian Gray's work, but singling him out also isn't entirely right.
Yes, his work formed the base of the discussed issues.
But the publisher, 505 Games, isn't blameless. Everything beyond the English version is in a state that should not be sold for 50+ bucks.
It is abundandly clear that they cut corners wherever they could and that there was next to no QA involved in the process.

That's why i've been arguing that this is a fundamentally bad localization. The issues run much deeper than Gray's dumb fluff texts.

Honestly I bet some blame also falls on R+B. The game got delayed so many times it's not surprising the localization ended up a rush job just to get it out the door. Their budget was probably getting stretched.

[NHZ]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MiguelCairo:

the snowflakes losing their mind over a few lines of text are ridiculous tbh, its just a video game, get over yourself, play it or dont nobody cares

Ok ♥♥♥♥ wit, when i change it to what i want with mods............

Why do THOSE people ban the mod?

[biodegradable]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mokinokaro:

Diposting pertama kali oleh MaChao:

I hate Brian Gray's work, but singling him out also isn't entirely right.
Yes, his work formed the base of the discussed issues.
But the publisher, 505 Games, isn't blameless. Everything beyond the English version is in a state that should not be sold for 50+ bucks.
It is abundandly clear that they cut corners wherever they could and that there was next to no QA involved in the process.

That's why i've been arguing that this is a fundamentally bad localization. The issues run much deeper than Gray's dumb fluff texts.

Honestly I bet some blame also falls on R+B. The game got delayed so many times it's not surprising the localization ended up a rush job just to get it out the door. Their budget was probably getting stretched.

well hopefully this will teach people not to fall for nostalgiabait kickstarters from washed up japanese devs, i hate to say it japanese devs but all of the kickstarters have been nightmares aside from bloodstained and even that is just now getting its kickstarter stretch goals finally delivered this week and downgraded its art style significantly from what was promised.


mighty no 9 - flop.
red ash, ???
shenmue 3 - scam
bloodstained - significant downgrade.
eiyuden - butchered localization on a game that is just ok anyways
penny blood - total $cam
armed fantasia - see above
ratatan - ive heard nothing and that can't be a good sign

[Melodia]

Bloodstained was the best KS game I ever backed. It was almost exactly like I and many others expected. It's my forth most played game on Steam with 239 hours.

I fail to see how Shen Mue 3 was a scam. It being bad doesn't make it a scam. It's closer to Mighty No. 9.

Armed Fantasia seems to be moving along fine. Not sure why you think it's a scam. As for Penny Blood? That reamins to be seen but again, I doubt it's a 'scam'.

[The_Box]

Diposting pertama kali oleh NHZ:

Diposting pertama kali oleh MiguelCairo:

the snowflakes losing their mind over a few lines of text are ridiculous tbh, its just a video game, get over yourself, play it or dont nobody cares

Ok ♥♥♥♥ wit, when i change it to what i want with mods............

Why do THOSE people ban the mod?

Nobody's banned any of the translation mods, nor is anybody trying to.

[Paste Eater]

cry some more