Wow the Sunstone Ring is SO good!

[fefnir3284]

Is it just me or is the Sunstone Ring OP AF? It gives the wearer an Armor Rating of C. I haven;t tested ti yet but wouldn't the Armor Rune make that a B, if not A? Hot damn!!!!

[Yuma]

If you slap it on someone who already has a shield and rune they go up to S armor rating :D

[fefnir3284]

Originally posted by Yuma:

If you slap it on someone who already has a shield and rune they go up to S armor rating :D

O.O

[Mr Fantastic]

They give great defense potential but it's better to use items to boost XP, item drop and money drop. There's 6 items of those, 1 for each character.

[johangp19]

Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:

They give great defense potential but it's better to use items to boost XP, item drop and money drop. There's 6 items of those, 1 for each character.

Interesting note...

[Taika]

I am still midway through, but noticed this as well! I have Reyna with Sunstone + Firefly tanking the heck out of everyone, taking 0-5 damage, and also dealing solid Counters.

Does EXP boost really make that much of a difference? In Suikoden, scaling was such that characters leveled very quickly as long as fighting a high enough level enemy... so not a lot of EXP grinding per se. Eiyuden seemed much the same so far...

[VertVentus]

https://suikosource.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=15218

Originally posted by Julian:

The grade is just a... display. There is an actual underlying armor amount.
D: 1-30
C: 31-60
B: 61-90
A: 91-130
S: 130+
Someone could have 40 armor, and someone else could have 60, they would both display C.

It doesn't reduce a lot. It's a straight damage reduction towards the end of the formula. iirc it's armor/10. It's basically only really effective against multi-hit attacks, and earlier game, as armor clearly doesn't scale as well as damage per hit.

The most you can get is 70 Primordial Mail + 150 League/Primordial Shield + 150 Sunstone Bangle = 370 armor = -37 physical damage reduction. Rune of Armor would give you 50% more.
Since damage calculations are linear, PWR - PD, armor won't help frail mages or bulky melee that much, so it's kind of a joke.

Eiyuden has the same exact EXP formula as Suikoden 2,
https://suikosource.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=14041
https://eiyuden.wiki.gg/wiki/Experience_points
and there's 2 ways to get to Lv. 99.

• In the Greatwood before Treefolk Village, farm 65/76 Rabbit Bear infinite spawns at Lv. 21/22 with a full party and the Growth Badge's +20%.
  
• Mysterious Room underneath your castle has Lv. 60 ~ 90 enemies, use smaller underleveled parties and win against high enemy quantity.

That's where the Growth Badge, EXP +100% support character Yulin lategame, and the EXP +100% accessory in the final dungeon shine, to jump to Lv. 99 than slogging through those final levels at a few EXP per kill.
Baqua you'll need a lot for weapon upgrades.
Item drop rate is additive, +10% and +50%, for items that sell for more baqua and getting showered in 3*+ runes, runeshards, or healing items.

[Feinne]

So it's armor value /10 for the reduction? No wonder it felt like it never did anything of value.