Season pass for a RPG?

[Zeo]

I mean, SERIOUSLY? How to expect our support with moves like that?

[Melodia]

Moves like what? Adding DLC which they clearly announced three years ago?

[Vex]

I feel like the term, 'Season Pass,' gets used for everything that doesn't come with a base game these days. It's meaning has been diluted. For Eiyuden, it's essentially just the DLC and some wallpapers/artbooks.

I do agree that using the term, 'Season Pass,' was a poor choice.

[Zeo]

Originally posted by Vex:

I feel like the term, 'Season Pass,' gets used for everything that doesn't come with a base game these days. It's meaning has been diluted. For Eiyuden, it's essentially just the DLC and some wallpapers/artbooks.

I do agree that using the term, 'Season Pass,' was a poor choice.

Season pass means that they will release future content but you don't need to buy it if you own the pass for that season, the price of the base game is a little high (but nothing like I wasn't expecting), so probably they already have content done but will hold off as a premise of DLC. I'm not against DLC but I don't like that they already are going to milk us in that way, we barely saw the game but we already saw their business practice.

The game had a successful crowdfunding, isn't like the devs are starving and yet we are plagued by this microtransaction model again, in a year where we just got Baldur's Gate there is absolutely ZERO excuses of why they are doing this.

@Melodia sorry to be startled because I'm not following their project religiously.

[Vex]

Originally posted by Zeo:

Originally posted by Vex:

I feel like the term, 'Season Pass,' gets used for everything that doesn't come with a base game these days. It's meaning has been diluted. For Eiyuden, it's essentially just the DLC and some wallpapers/artbooks.

I do agree that using the term, 'Season Pass,' was a poor choice.

Season pass means that they will release future content but you don't need to buy it if you own the pass for that season, the price of the base game is a little high (but nothing like I wasn't expecting), so probably they already have content done but will hold off as a premise of DLC. I'm not against DLC but I don't like that they already are going to milk us in that way, we barely saw the game but we already saw their business practice.

The game had a successful crowdfunding, isn't like the devs are starving and yet we are plagued by this microtransaction model again, in a year where we just got Baldur's Gate there is absolutely ZERO excuses of why they are doing this.

@Melodia sorry to be startled because I'm not following their project religiously.

My issue with DLC, is that it's often used as an excuse to launch an incomplete game. That's not what's happening here. Eiyuden is going to launch complete. An example of DLC would be them adding town building a month later, or the theatre content.

What Eiyuden's DLC is doing, is focusing on expanding the stories of different characters. Not much different than, say, Eiyuden Chronicles: Rising did, for that matter, except rather than creating a 12 hour game with different gameplay, they're adding this into Eiyuden directly.

If Suikoden II had offered DLC such as the Highgate Rebellion or Pesmerga's hunt for Yuber post-war, I'd have jumped on that in a heartbeat.

Acceptable DLC builds on the game, rather than completes it. Eiyuden's DLC seems to be doing just that.

[SivartStoneheart]

Season Pass seemed like a weird term when they first started using it. I thought it was giving a discount for the DLC for that year(the season).

Years later with Season pass being a thing I believe a single game with 2 season passes I'm used to a deluxe(with some random name) version of the game containing all DLC.

I don't care much either way but could we start using simpler wording like bundle plus clear labeling. I have noticed the labeling has gotten much worse last 5 years, I believe its because of the mobile market.

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Zeo:

The game had a successful crowdfunding, isn't like the devs are starving and yet we are plagued by this microtransaction model again, in a year where we just got Baldur's Gate there is absolutely ZERO excuses of why they are doing this.

@Melodia sorry to be startled because I'm not following their project religiously.

Basically all the DLC they are selling, now at least, is stuff that was payed for by the crowdfunding campaign. So it's not like they are 'taking stuff out of the game', they are emphatically adding to it.

And the way they are selling it can be solely laid in the hands of the publisher not the developer.

[Melodia]

Originally posted by SivartStoneheart:

Season Pass seemed like a weird term when they first started using it. I thought it was giving a discount for the DLC for that year(the season).

Yeah I agree, it's always felt like a weird term. Should be something more like 'content pass' but the video game industry continues to try and fail to be cool, after all.

[Zeo]

Originally posted by Vex:

Originally posted by Zeo:

Season pass means that they will release future content but you don't need to buy it if you own the pass for that season, the price of the base game is a little high (but nothing like I wasn't expecting), so probably they already have content done but will hold off as a premise of DLC. I'm not against DLC but I don't like that they already are going to milk us in that way, we barely saw the game but we already saw their business practice.

The game had a successful crowdfunding, isn't like the devs are starving and yet we are plagued by this microtransaction model again, in a year where we just got Baldur's Gate there is absolutely ZERO excuses of why they are doing this.

@Melodia sorry to be startled because I'm not following their project religiously.

My issue with DLC, is that it's often used as an excuse to launch an incomplete game. That's not what's happening here. Eiyuden is going to launch complete. An example of DLC would be them adding town building a month later, or the theatre content.

What Eiyuden's DLC is doing, is focusing on expanding the stories of different characters. Not much different than, say, Eiyuden Chronicles: Rising did, for that matter, except rather than creating a 12 hour game with different gameplay, they're adding this into Eiyuden directly.

If Suikoden II had offered DLC such as the Highgate Rebellion or Pesmerga's hunt for Yuber post-war, I'd have jumped on that in a heartbeat.

Acceptable DLC builds on the game, rather than completes it. Eiyuden's DLC seems to be doing just that.

Point taken, you're right.

[Zeo]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Originally posted by SivartStoneheart:

Season Pass seemed like a weird term when they first started using it. I thought it was giving a discount for the DLC for that year(the season).

Yeah I agree, it's always felt like a weird term. Should be something more like 'content pass' but the video game industry continues to try and fail to be cool, after all.

So I will wait until they sell the DLC separately, while I find cool I'm not really interested on digital art books and music collections, for those things I still prefer own the real thing.

[0JMachine]

i was really hyped for this game too... story dlc in an rpg is just wrong.

[Duradan]

Here's the thing, We the backers voted on it and they wasn't suppose to be done during the main game. 505 is the one who called for them to get them done during development. Also note the DLC's are just side content, to the main game, they will have no real bearing on the main story of the game Just side stories for the other MC's (Seign and Mar that have no revelation to main story or features of the Main) and just HQ stuff. Also note the season pass is called that for 2 reasons, one it's a discount if you get SP then paying for all 3 when they release separately. 2 the Main dev is thinking of doing the other DLC's that didnt get voted for, There was like 7 in total for ideas back in 2020 to expand the world in ways he couldn't with Suikoden because of Konami owning the IP.