Minions stopped working all together

[Wuulfe]

On the Hotel side of the map, I've got 6 minions running about doing stuff. 3 Engineers and 3 Collectors.

I have 2x 3-seated Charging stations powered up and operational....

However.... Minions are all flashing low battery and just not moving... There's 4 right beside the 2 chargers and have been standing about like this for 30 minutes now. I can't seem to get them to power up even though their right by the charging stations...

[joao.eira]

The same for me, the minions don't charge in the Hotel side.

[Tryyton]

first, that's definitely too many minions at this point. they still have issues and using 6 only makes it worse. why do you have 9 charging spots? even 6 would be too much.

anyway, the other roof doesn't work for most minion related things. not sure if fixes for that will be in the upcoming patch already.

so at this point there is not much you can do. start new and do things differently.

[Mad Hatter]

Originally posted by Tryyton:

first, that's definitely too many minions at this point. they still have issues and using 6 only makes it worse. why do you have 9 charging spots? even 6 would be too much.

anyway, the other roof doesn't work for most minion related things. not sure if fixes for that will be in the upcoming patch already.

so at this point there is not much you can do. start new and do things differently. :wink_eol:

1) He says he has two charging stations, not three. Where did you come up with that? He has six total charging spots (one per minion), which may be a tad unnecessary, but still doesn't add up to nine, and isn't that excessive.

2) What are these issues you're referring to? A little elaboration would be helpful.

3) Why is six too many? Is it related to the issues you didn't elaborate on? Nothing in the game suggests that there's a limit on how many minions will work.

4) I have three minions and I am having the exact same issue. They're all sitting in one spot, flashing low battery, and refusing to recharge. Is that because three is too many? Because they worked just fine for the last five hours, and now randomly don't work. Why is that? Judging from the arrogant and condescending tone of your post, you seem to have some deep insight into this issue. Please enlighten us.

so at this point there is not much you can do

Why? Explain. What has gone wrong that can not be reversed and what should be done differently?

:wink_eol:

[Mad Hatter]

Originally posted by Wuulfe:

On the Hotel side of the map, I've got 6 minions running about doing stuff. 3 Engineers and 3 Collectors.

I have 2 three-seated Charging stations powered up and operational....

However.... Minions are all flashing low battery and just not moving... There's 4 right beside the 2 chargers and have been standing about like this for 30 minutes now. I can't seem to get them to power up even though their right by the charging stations...

Try demolishing the charging stations and rebuilding them. I demolished my charging station and all of my minions immediately started moving around again.

Update: I rebuilt my charging station and they flocked to it the moment it was ready.

[Wuulfe]

I tried that, before it was suggested. They’re still just sitting there.

For the record to clarify, I have 6 minions. 3 engineers and 3 collectors.

Regarding charging stations, I have now have 3 in total built (upped from the original 2) but each can hold up to 3 minions each. Was hoping a new one might solve the problem - it didn’t.

On the main roof you start on, no issue they’re still working. It’s the hotel roof they’ve stopped dead on.

[Tryyton]

Originally posted by Mad Hatter:

you literally killed the last quote...

1. 1 charging-pool with 3 spots = 3 charging-pools with 9 spots... not that hard is it!? and there are only 6 minions...
2. what issues? uhm, like not doing their job, getting stuck at places, forget what they have to e.g. collect... basically the things we talk about...
3. see the above. the minions are well know to have or cause issues, and building 6 (where did all those core even come from?) is just literally asking for problems...
4. are you reading something else? where was i arrogant? for that i actually thought about not replying to you at all. because your tone in my direction is not exactly nice, is it?
anyway... when minions stop working or stand around for no reason, the easiest "fix" is to give them another job or switch from manual to automated collection or vice versa. that normally makes them move again.

the "deep insights" come from playing the game, reading the forums and discord. all infos are out there. the fact that i am one of the playtesters doesn't have to do with it. there are numerous posts about the minions and their issues.

Originally posted by Wuulfe:

I tried that, before it was suggested. They’re still just sitting there.

For the record to clarify, I have 6 minions. 3 engineers and 3 collectors.

Regarding charging stations, I have 3 in total built but each can hold up to 3 minions each.

On the main roof you start on, no issue they’re still working. It’s the hotel roof they’ve stopped dead on.

6 minions are too many at this point/state of the game. not sure if the upcoming patch will fix them fully.
you definitely don't need that many charging stations/pools. you have 9 spots/seats and only 6 minions... 2 pools are enough and not even needed since they barely have to charge at the same time and if, they just wait. i have one pool with 2 seats for 3 minions. absolutey fine and enough.
the other roof is known to have minion issues. it is better to not use that for minions atm. they know, but i am also not sure if fixes for that make it into the patch yet. but there is really nothing you can do about that. the 2nd roof is a problem for them for some reason.
but if you want to get answers from the devs and/or provide feedback and your save, you should join the discord.
so at this point, wait and hope the patch fixes it, or just start new and keep those issues in mind.

[Mad Hatter]

Originally posted by Tryyton:

Originally posted by Mad Hatter:

1. 1 charging-pool with 3 spots = 3 charging-pools with 9 spots... not that hard is it!? and there are only 6 minions...
2. what issues? uhm, like not doing their job, getting stuck at places, forget what they have to e.g. collect... :conwayshrug: basically the things we talk about...
3. see the above. the minions are well know to have or cause issues, and building 6 (where did all those core even come from?) is just literally asking for problems...
4. are you reading something else? where was i arrogant? for that i actually thought about not replying to you at all. because your tone in my direction is not exactly nice, is it?
anyway... when minions stop working or stand around for no reason, the easiest "fix" is to give them another job or switch from manual to automated collection or vice versa. that normally makes them move again.

the "deep insights" come from playing the game, reading the forums and discord. all infos are out there. the fact that i am one of the playtesters doesn't have to do with it. there are numerous posts about the minions and their issues.

1. The OP clearly says 2 3-spot charging stations. That's 6 spots. One of the two of us is struggling with numbers and it isn't me.

I have 2 three-seated Charging stations powered up and operational....

Reading comprehension. What is it?

2. You just said "issues" without elaborating. As someone that isn't having game-breaking issues, I needed clarification. For me, simply rebuilding the charging station worked perfectly and I haven't had any issues since.

3. What is "well known"? Where is this being discussed? I can't be assed to join the Discord of every game I buy just because there's a minor bug. You saying "minions have issues" without providing context is useless. There isn't a single mention of this exact issue in the pinned BUG THREAD at the top of the forum here. There also isn't a single thread about THIS issue in the FIRST FIVE PAGES of the bug report forum. There are threads about minion issues, but none about this.

4. No, my tone isn't nice. Your post with your stupid wink emoji at the end, after giving no useful advice, was the definition of condescending. You can backpedal, but I don't care.

And no, changing their assignments does not fix the issue. Tried that. Rebuilding the charging stations, on the other hand, completely solved the problem for me.

Originally posted by Wuulfe:

Regarding charging stations, I have 3 in total built but each can hold up to 3 minions each.

Fix your OP. It says 2.

[Tryyton]

Originally posted by Mad Hatter:

1. The OP clearly says 2 3-spot charging stations. That's 6 spots. One of the two of us is struggling with numbers and it isn't me.

2. You just said "issues" without elaborating. As someone that isn't having game-breaking issues, I needed clarification. For me, simply rebuilding the charging station worked perfectly and I haven't had any issues since.

3. What is "well known"? Where is this being discussed? I can't be assed to join the Discord of every game I buy just because there's a minor bug. You saying "minions have issues" without providing context is useless. There isn't a single mention of this exact issue in the pinned BUG THREAD at the top of the forum here. There also isn't a single thread about THIS issue in the FIRST FIVE PAGES of the bug report forum. There are threads about minion issues, but none about this.

4. No, my tone isn't nice. Your post with your stupid wink emoji at the end, after giving no useful advice, was the definition of condescending. You can backpedal, but I don't care.

And no, changing their assignments does not fix the issue. Tried that. Rebuilding the charging stations, on the other hand, completely solved the problem for me.

Originally posted by Wuulfe:

Regarding charging stations, I have 3 in total built but each can hold up to 3 minions each.

Fix your OP. It says 2.

1. wtf... did i mix up the other 3s somehow? then the op's reply later is even more confusing. yeah, guess that fail was on me.

2. the minions, in general, have and cause issues, that is well known from different threads. several do mention them not moving/getting stuck, maybe not in the title, but in threads related to minions. also about the 2nd roof causing issues for them.

3. see above... no more context is needed than "the minions have issues atm". the have all sorts of issues. the game is early access. but the minions already work much better than in the beta. they already fixed a lot.

4. still, my post was not offensive or an insult in any way, or was it? it was also not pointed at you... and that a wink emoji upsets you so much... well... when you have to start a new game, isn't that fitting?

5. changing their assignments is one of the workarounds that can help. obviously not in all cases. another is moving/rebuilding the charging station, which worked for you but not the op. but like i said often enough, the minions can cause several issues.

[Wuulfe]

Trying to figure out if I’m being attacked on this thread or not. Feels like I _am_ just for stating a problem with minion pathing and charging..

[Tryyton]

Originally posted by Wuulfe:

Trying to figure out if I’m being attacked on this thread or not. Feels like I _am_ just for stating a problem with minion pathing and charging..

you? not really.
did anything fix your issues by now?

[Cyaneyed]

Minions work like Dog-arse on the hotel side of things. I abandoned 3 minions to there eventual grave because they stopped collecting things and i got tired of manually making them do it.

[Wuulfe]

Originally posted by Tryyton:

Originally posted by Wuulfe:

Trying to figure out if I’m being attacked on this thread or not. Feels like I _am_ just for stating a problem with minion pathing and charging..

you? not really.
did anything fix your issues by now?

nah.. i had removed/deconned all the charging stations and rebuilt them (cleared all 3 of them before I rebuilt just to make sure there were none on the map) but they're still battery dead. Its only on the Hotel building tho. The main one's fine.

[Tryyton]

like said before and in other threads, the 2nd roof is known to not work with minions at all...

[Cerberyus]

On the subject of misbehaving minons, i've noticed something sorta interesting. While i'm aware and have had the minons just throw a tanty and decide to take a holiday, i did notice alot of the ' stopping / forgetting' issues were occurring when there was no clear pathway to certain items.
I'm no game dev but they are almost behaving like theres a TTL encoded into there AI, perhaps to stop further down road when players have upwards of 15 minons killing your average PC if theres a item with issues. when you reload from an drone run, the job stack gets shuffled and for a while the obtainable items get cleaned until the problem item crops up again.
It might be helpful if theres a way to tell the player the minon cannot path. while it's certainly not 100% of the issues, it may help for some of it as i've found some items 'stuck' in odd places with frozen bots.

[Mr. Fibble]

It might be a pathing issue for the minions since they like to head round the back before turning around and going up the ramp at the front of the pool. If that spot is blocked then they'll sit and wait until it clears.

The chests and racks also have a similar issue where the spot they need to interact with isn't clear on the blueprint.