Dont know how to get hatchlings

[Neptune]

So i don't know how to get hatchling without rerolling the map a million times , does anyone know a easy way other than the pillar, cause i went through the whole pillar thing just to not get one........

[CastleAnthrax]

I assume you are trying to get that achievement that requires you to turn a hatchling into a seraph. There is a site that you can find on a map that summons several hatchlings a week. The one time I had this site close to my starting base, I was playing as Order. Maybe there are certain maps that are more likely to have that site nearby when playing as Order? Unfortunately I don't recall which map it was that this happened to me on.

Two other ideas:

The first is to play as a hero with the Diplomacy skill or as one of Enclave's Snakespeaker heros. These heros can acquire hatchlings by defeating them in battle. Ideally the hero you pick would also have the Bloodwarping skill, but lacking that, you would have to hire another hero with that skill and transfer acquired hatchlings to them.

The last idea is to make your own map with the site I mentioned in your starting area, then play a hero with the Bloodwarping skill, and you should get that achievement in no time from there. The trick with this last one is figuring out how to make maps, which I found to be less than straight forward...

[Neptune]

Originally posted by CastleAnthrax:

I assume you are trying to get that achievement that requires you to turn a hatchling into a seraph. There is a site that you can find on a map that summons several hatchlings a week. The one time I had this site close to my starting base, I was playing as Order. Maybe there are certain maps that are more likely to have that site nearby when playing as Order? Unfortunately I don't recall which map it was that this happened to me on.

Two other ideas:

The first is to play as a hero with the Diplomacy skill or as one of Enclave's Snakespeaker heros. These heros can acquire hatchlings by defeating them in battle. Ideally the hero you pick would also have the Bloodwarping skill, but lacking that, you would have to hire another hero with that skill and transfer acquired hatchlings to them.

The last idea is to make your own map with the site I mentioned in your starting area, then play a hero with the Bloodwarping skill, and you should get that achievement in no time from there. The trick with this last one is figuring out how to make maps, which I found to be less than straight forward...

Thx so much , i rerolled a bunch as order and got it thx, now i just need one more achievment lol

[CastleAnthrax]

No problem!

I also happen to be down to one achievement, that being Ant's Best Friend. Have you managed to figure that one out?

[edge2dino]

Originally posted by CastleAnthrax:

No problem!

I also happen to be down to one achievement, that being Ant's Best Friend. Have you managed to figure that one out?

that was is simple just defeat some ants and then hire them through diplomacy then free some from a cage the problem that makes it hard is the chance of encountering ants and then the even more rare rare chance of encountering some in a cage to free. i still haven't completed it but your best chance is to play really big maps for more chances in my opinion

[CastleAnthrax]

Originally posted by edge2dino:

that was is simple just defeat some ants and then hire them through diplomacy then free some from a cage the problem that makes it hard is the chance of encountering ants and then the even more rare rare chance of encountering some in a cage to free. i still haven't completed it but your best chance is to play really big maps for more chances in my opinion

I don't think that this achievement can be had through the method you are describing, at least not for people like me who don’t have the DLC. Without the DLC nor mods in the current edition of the game, there are no ants in neutral stacks. The description of the Brood Cavern suggests that it is supposed to be defended by ants, but except for possibly the first time I checked out that site, every other time I visited a Brood Cavern, I have found it defended by Crusaders and Capras. That being the case the only way the player will encounter hostile ants in battle that can then potentially be recruited via the Diplomacy skill is if an enemy AI faction acquires Amtio or Bestna, or if the AI happens to hire ants from a Mercenary Hall. In my experience, the AI ignores Brood Caverns and rarely hires mercenaries, even on huge maps, and so the conditions for the AI fielding ants against you in normal play is very, very, very small. Hypothetically, the we could stack the odds of an AI fielding Amtio or Bestna by playing a map with a lot of players, and then making all the players either Wild or Lament respectively to improve the chances of one of those players fielding one of those heroes. Even then I suspect that getting into a fight with a hero fielding ants with my hero with Diplomacy will be difficult to arrange. Honestly, I think the easiest way to set up that fight is if I play a hot seat game and multiple teams…

However, that is only half the battle. The other part is the “freeing an ant from prison”. My initial instinct was pretty much the same as your proposal, that is, finding ants in a cage and then freeing them. However, after several dozen games, I have yet to see a cage with ants in it. I checked the map making features, and I cannot create cages with ants to free there either (this same methodology is how I concluded that ants cannot be found in neutral groups). Therefore, I think “freeing an ant from prison” must mean something else. My guess right now is that this might mean getting Amtio or Bestna from the Prison site. Or maybe the Brood Cavern could qualify as well?

I’ve made a map with a bunch of Brood Caverns to try to create the conditions necessary to get this achievement, but I haven't succeeded in acquiring it yet. I’m not quite at my wit’s end, but I’m getting there. Let me know if you do figure it out. Hopefully I’m wrong about something here, and this is less difficult than I’m making it out to be.

[Luckylucas9]

Originally posted by CastleAnthrax:

I don't think that this achievement can be had through the method you are describing, at least not for people like me who don’t have the DLC. Without the DLC nor mods in the current edition of the game, there are no ants in neutral stacks. The description of the Brood Cavern suggests that it is supposed to be defended by ants, but except for possibly the first time I checked out that site, every other time I visited a Brood Cavern, I have found it defended by Crusaders and Capras. That being the case the only way the player will encounter hostile ants in battle that can then potentially be recruited via the Diplomacy skill is if an enemy AI faction acquires Amtio or Bestna, or if the AI happens to hire ants from a Mercenary Hall. In my experience, the AI ignores Brood Caverns and rarely hires mercenaries, even on huge maps, and so the conditions for the AI fielding ants against you in normal play is very, very, very small. Hypothetically, the we could stack the odds of an AI fielding Amtio or Bestna by playing a map with a lot of players, and then making all the players either Wild or Lament respectively to improve the chances of one of those players fielding one of those heroes. Even then I suspect that getting into a fight with a hero fielding ants with my hero with Diplomacy will be difficult to arrange. Honestly, I think the easiest way to set up that fight is if I play a hot seat game and multiple teams…

However, that is only half the battle. The other part is the “freeing an ant from prison”. My initial instinct was pretty much the same as your proposal, that is, finding ants in a cage and then freeing them. However, after several dozen games, I have yet to see a cage with ants in it. I checked the map making features, and I cannot create cages with ants to free there either (this same methodology is how I concluded that ants cannot be found in neutral groups). Therefore, I think “freeing an ant from prison” must mean something else. My guess right now is that this might mean getting Amtio or Bestna from the Prison site. Or maybe the Brood Cavern could qualify as well?

I’ve made a map with a bunch of Brood Caverns to try to create the conditions necessary to get this achievement, but I haven't succeeded in acquiring it yet. I’m not quite at my wit’s end, but I’m getting there. Let me know if you do figure it out. Hopefully I’m wrong about something here, and this is less difficult than I’m making it out to be.

I just played a hotseat game with myself where I reloaded a map with full vision till both brood cavern and the jungle mound that gives free ants spawned. Had one hero get ants, then defeated them with a diplomacy hero and gained soldier ants through diplomacy. Then went to crusader-defended brood cavern and freed Amtio. No achievement. We're cooked

[CastleAnthrax]

Originally posted by Luckylucas9:

Originally posted by CastleAnthrax:

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I just played a hotseat game with myself where I reloaded a map with full vision till both brood cavern and the jungle mound that gives free ants spawned. Had one hero get ants, then defeated them with a diplomacy hero and gained soldier ants through diplomacy. Then went to crusader-defended brood cavern and freed Amtio. No achievement. We're cooked

I forgot about that aspect of the Jungle Mound site. That was clever. Sucks that it didn't work. Here's to being cooked I guess...

[left]

Originally posted by CastleAnthrax:

I assume you are trying to get that achievement that requires you to turn a hatchling into a seraph. There is a site that you can find on a map that summons several hatchlings a week. The one time I had this site close to my starting base, I was playing as Order. Maybe there are certain maps that are more likely to have that site nearby when playing as Order? Unfortunately I don't recall which map it was that this happened to me on.

Two other ideas:

The first is to play as a hero with the Diplomacy skill or as one of Enclave's Snakespeaker heros. These heros can acquire hatchlings by defeating them in battle. Ideally the hero you pick would also have the Bloodwarping skill, but lacking that, you would have to hire another hero with that skill and transfer acquired hatchlings to them.

The last idea is to make your own map with the site I mentioned in your starting area, then play a hero with the Bloodwarping skill, and you should get that achievement in no time from there. The trick with this last one is figuring out how to make maps, which I found to be less than straight forward...

Thank you darling