Haptic feedback?

[Un Pollo]

I'm playing with a PS5 controller but the adaptive triggers seems not to work...same for the other features...i see the xbox controller layout either in the game and in the options menu.
I checked the big pictures controller option and the ps5 config is active...how can i activate the complete dualsense support on Returnal?

[sonk]

Did you happen to disable the controllers sound devices in the Windows Sound settings? Re-enable them if you did because for some reason doing that disables the vibration.

[Jarol]

EDITED PSA: In order to have haptic feedback (not dumb rumble) you must do the following:

1. Disable Steam Input by going to the game's Properties > Controller > "OVERRIDE FOR RETURNAL" set to Disable Steam Input
2. In Window's sound settings you must have your controller's audio output ENABLED. You can do this by typing in "Manage Sound Device" into start > find your DualSense contoller and make sure it is enabled.

The controller must be an active audio device as the game sends it sounds that the controller then vibrates to.

[Un Pollo]

Originally posted by SirDuck:

Is it wired in? The PS5 controller only works as one on pc when wired in, thanks Sony!

Yes it's wired

Originally posted by sonk:

Did you happen to disable the controllers sound devices in the Windows Sound settings? Re-enable them if you did because for some reason doing that disables the vibration.

i didn't disable anything, as far as i know...

[Sulaco]

Go into your controller settings in game and make sure "adaptive triggers" are set to on. Didn't even know there was an option for it, was trying to figure out why my triggers weren't working properly and found it after some digging.

[Icy1007]

Originally posted by JohnTravoltage:

I disabled steaminput before first launch, and have been playing it with a dualsense controller. The advanced haptic feedback and adaptive triggers work.. to an extent.

For some reason the adaptive trigger for the right trigger which pushes back a bit whenever the gun fires isn't working. only the left trigger has the simulated dual stage trigger feel. I didn't really like the feeling of the right adaptive trigger that much, and it wasn't a big deal, but im not sure why we aren't getting the exact same experience.

The R2 button is not supposed to have any resistance in Returnal. Only the L2 button does.

[JohnTravoltage]

Originally posted by Icy1007:

Originally posted by JohnTravoltage:

I disabled steaminput before first launch, and have been playing it with a dualsense controller. The advanced haptic feedback and adaptive triggers work.. to an extent.

For some reason the adaptive trigger for the right trigger which pushes back a bit whenever the gun fires isn't working. only the left trigger has the simulated dual stage trigger feel. I didn't really like the feeling of the right adaptive trigger that much, and it wasn't a big deal, but im not sure why we aren't getting the exact same experience.

The R2 button is not supposed to have any resistance in Returnal. Only the L2 button does.

It doesn't have resistance, but each time a gun fires it pushes the trigger back into your finger, kind of giving you feedback of each shot. I booted up returnal on my ps5 to test this and swapped controller between them and its the only difference.

[Un Pollo]

Ok now it works! I've disabled the ps5 controller support in steam. :D

[ZurceZx]

Originally posted by Icy1007:

Why should they pay for a program for that?

It's a separate app that allows custom trigger profiles for games, and It can easily mimic the wired experience on wireless if they want to use it

There is also a github version that people can use for free, just the steam app is a way to support the dev which is working on enabling Dualsense Wired Emulation on wireless and enable those features, which sounds pretty awesome if you ask me.

[karl-emil]

Originally posted by sonk:

Did you happen to disable the controllers sound devices in the Windows Sound settings? Re-enable them if you did because for some reason doing that disables the vibration.

this is the problem i had, thanks a lot for the solution :)

[JohnTravoltage]

Originally posted by D2Synua:

Originally posted by sonk:

Did you happen to disable the controllers sound devices in the Windows Sound settings? Re-enable them if you did because for some reason doing that disables the vibration.

this is the problem i had, thanks a lot for the solution :)

For anyone else wondering why, the reason why is because the haptic feedback with dualsense is done with an extra audio channel, which makes a lot of sense when you think about the haptic feedback being done by 2 linear motors which are basically speakers.

You can actually record and listen to the haptic feedback audio channel and see how it works, and I recall some games having an issue where if you stream on discord it will also stream the haptic feedback audio too lol.

But yeah if you disable the dualsense controller sound device, the game can't output the haptic feedback audio to it.

[sonk]

Originally posted by JohnTravoltage:

Originally posted by D2Synua:

this is the problem i had, thanks a lot for the solution :)

For anyone else wondering why, the reason why is because the haptic feedback with dualsense is done with an extra audio channel, which makes a lot of sense when you think about the haptic feedback being done by 2 linear motors which are basically speakers.

You can actually record and listen to the haptic feedback audio channel and see how it works, and I recall some games having an issue where if you stream on discord it will also stream the haptic feedback audio too lol.

But yeah if you disable the dualsense controller sound device, the game can't output the haptic feedback audio to it.

I actually didn't know this and makes a lot of sense now. I assumed the haptic feedback would just go through the usual channels responsible for basic vibration but this is actually a really clever way to do it. Probably saves a lot of bandwidth and processing too.

[laggerific]

Originally posted by Icy1007:

Originally posted by laggerific:

If they released a wireless adapter that required their fancy edge controller to work, I'd still do it in a second. I really want to go wireless on my PC with all features. Love the Dualsense... It's even worth bothering with cords, for me...I just find it massively annoying.

That's funny since the Edge controller does not work very well on PC yet.

Yeah, my thinking on that is, with all the fancy UI stuff the edge does, like switching profiles, perhaps the wireless dongle plus drivers would be the part that finally brings it all together for the PC side of things…it must be in the works, in some dungeon lab at Sony.

[ZITZ]

Originally posted by Jarol:

EDITED PSA: In order to have haptic feedback (not dumb rumble) you must do the following:

1. Disable Steam Input by going to the game's Properties > Controller > "OVERRIDE FOR RETURNAL" set to Disable Steam Input
2. In Window's sound settings you must have your controller's audio output ENABLED. You can do this by typing in "Manage Sound Device" into start > find your DualSense contoller and make sure it is enabled.

The controller must be an active audio device as the game sends it sounds that the controller then vibrates to.

this works, thanks! but looks like only for wired connection, or maybe I need to something more to make it work wireless...too bad

[Obelix]

Does anyone else have issues with just the right trigger?

[Screaming Chicken]

Originally posted by Obelix:

Does anyone else have issues with just the right trigger?

Does your adaptive trigger stop working if go to the inventory menu? Mine does.