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KoweK Feb 15, 2023 @ 8:09am
Why it installs some EPIC software?
WTF? There's no information about it on store page and I think it's first SONY game which containts such a soft
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look at the clown Feb 15, 2023 @ 8:11am 
probably for coop cause it's on epic too
Last edited by look at the clown; Feb 15, 2023 @ 8:11am
Blu Hedgie Feb 15, 2023 @ 8:11am 
It's probably used for the multiplayer.
Salfaden Feb 15, 2023 @ 8:12am 
crossplay
KoweK Feb 15, 2023 @ 8:12am 
@up, thx, now everything is clear
Habi Feb 15, 2023 @ 8:13am 
Not the first. Sackboy does that too.
CPU Level 2 Feb 15, 2023 @ 8:13am 
Will I need to create an Epic account? I'm hoping not because I'm tired of having all these accounts to sync / link or whatever.
Clail Feb 15, 2023 @ 8:14am 
It installs the epic launcher?
Salfaden Feb 15, 2023 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by Bob Nass:
Will I need to create an Epic account? I'm hoping not because I'm tired of having all these accounts to sync / link or whatever.
no i believe
CPU Level 2 Feb 15, 2023 @ 8:21am 
Thanks!
Bijiooo Feb 15, 2023 @ 11:05am 
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it does this because SONY obviously very much want you to shop at the EPIC STORE instead.

that dead, empty, creepy-ass store with no customer rating system beyond the 4.5/5 (at least) they provide you on all major games I've seen.

and SONY does this because the EPIC STORE gives them a better percentage than STEAM does, even though STEAM is in *every single way* the superior platform by miles and miles. and everyone knows it.

SONY may also have some sort of stake or deal in the UNREAL ENGINE, I don't know about that.

I hate it.
Kein Zantezuken Feb 15, 2023 @ 12:35pm 
The Epic Launcher is not a mandatory requirement for CO-OP, they easily could have used Steam Auth Session auth/ticket for EOS.
The fact that they force you to install Epic Launcher is a deliberate choice
Last edited by Kein Zantezuken; Feb 15, 2023 @ 12:36pm
Acquire Feb 15, 2023 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by Kein Zantezuken:
The Epic Launcher is not a mandatory requirement for CO-OP, they easily could have used Steam Auth Session auth/ticket for EOS.
The fact that they force you to install Epic Launcher is a deliberate choice
They do not force you to install the Epic Launcher

EOS has nothing to do with EGS. EOS is a cross platform cross play solution that integrates into UE and is used by many games. It is a simple way for game using UE to support cross play. If you're allergic to Epic then why are you even buying this game? It runs on Epic's Unreal Engine. Cut out all UE games from your life, you'll be missing out on a ton of games.
Last edited by Acquire; Feb 15, 2023 @ 12:52pm
Traveller Feb 15, 2023 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by Kein Zantezuken:
The Epic Launcher is not a mandatory requirement for CO-OP, they easily could have used Steam Auth Session auth/ticket for EOS.
The fact that they force you to install Epic Launcher is a deliberate choice
It doesn't install the launcher.
Kein Zantezuken Feb 15, 2023 @ 9:46pm 
Really? That is very interesting, because game content comes with a steam install script eos_installscript.vdf:
https://steamdb.info/depot/1649241/

"InstallScript" { "Firewall" { "EOS Bootstrapper - 1649240" "%INSTALLDIR%\\Returnal\\Binaries\\Win64\\EOSBootstrapper.exe" } "Run Process" { "EpicOnlineServices" { "HasRunKey" "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Software\\Valve\\Steam\\Apps\\1649240\\EOS" "Process 1" "%INSTALLDIR%\\Returnal\\Binaries\\Win64\\EpicOnlineServicesInstaller.exe" "Command 1" "/install productId=1acab94a52894e9ba7c5e61552bcd3fa /quiet" } } "Run Process On Uninstall" { "EpicOnlineServices" { "Process 1" "%INSTALLDIR%\\Returnal\\Binaries\\Win64\\EpicOnlineServicesInstaller.exe" "Command 1" "/uninstall productId=1acab94a52894e9ba7c5e61552bcd3fa /quiet" } } } "kvsignatures" { "InstallScript" "a716b9cb416f9808ae8dcc0d2e0d39e5380e679a84fe4e2ec01950cc9bb9ba7a7d8e0c47aade87e9d64afb91dc3b979362d3722cc4380bcc076e38657aa03f1063e82ff16bf2218b262617d5248feb45cb1a731c7e05af897467253ca4c66487ceb57317b2adc1d268f0b78c7628783ebba3c321c3ab0505864a0d8be2c8b490" }

Which has launcher redistributable in it as a post-install step.
People also report hard requirement for Epic Account:
https://i.imgur.com/n0IywNt.jpg
I assume this is for Co-Op, which, as I mentioned before, is not a necessary requirement for the project, since you can uniquely register uses in EOS GameServices for your App via Steam Auth Session type of auth and use EOS sessions/matchmaking or lobbies.
Last edited by Kein Zantezuken; Feb 15, 2023 @ 9:47pm
Sgt Snoke Em Feb 15, 2023 @ 10:16pm 
It still boosts epics numbers.

So I'm avoiding it.

Sorry devs. Either you tell epic to fk off, or you tell me to fk off.

That simple.

You chose to go with epic. So as far as I'm concerned you just told me to fk off.

So.... fk you too.
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Date Posted: Feb 15, 2023 @ 8:09am
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