Difficulty? Lets talk

[ELDEN LORD]

I see some people are struggling.
Firstly i wouldnt play the option where hits always hit. Im playing on normal and rarly die so id like to hear what people may be struggling with so me or someone else can help. And im not a vet with these games so i know if i can do it yall can to. The game is a blast, instead of saying the game needs this or that lets give it a fair shot amd adjust accordingly

[ELDEN LORD]

Originally posted by Martin:

Originally posted by blinkninja1:

Bug u think? Ive never misses at 100 percent

I've missed at 100% with everything except the shotgun and Bouncers. Dozens of times.. but I'm sick of the game now.. it goes in the bin alongside all my other bad purchases.

well i never have nor have i heard of anyone else missing at 100. thats why im wondering if its a bug that sh0uld be reported. oh well , have a good one sorry abotu ur purchase.

[Laurykat]

This user is well known for lying and making up things. He's been consistently lying about the game since it was released. I can only see what he's saying because you are quoting him, if you value your time, just block him like the rest of us did.

I repeat, he is a liar and a troll, feed them at your own risk.

(Also he's not very sharp and he is clearly shooting a Warden from the front angle while the Warden is using their "Shield Wall" ability that makes them immune to frontal attacks, so besides a liar and a troll he has skill/intellectual issues, and why he's still stuck trying to beat the game and saying it's hard while the rest of the world that started it when he did, finished it a lifetime ago)

[gatsu]

The wardens are broken. They mostly break when they use the shield at the end of the turn.

I had them disappearing and showing at starting position when shot.

If you teleport them or move with miasma storm they are blocking dmg with the shield from different direction than shield is facing.

At my last fight there were 2 of them and were unable to reach my team that was shooting the 10k shielded boss from behind. So also pathfinding problems.

[Laurykat]

Originally posted by gatsu:

The wardens are broken. They mostly break when they use the shield at the end of the turn.

I had them disappearing and showing at starting position when shot.

If you teleport them or move with miasma storm they are blocking dmg with the shield from different direction than shield is facing.

At my last fight there were 2 of them and were unable to reach my team that was shooting the 10k shielded boss from behind. So also pathfinding problems.

I never used the teleport skill so I can't comment on that, but on the last fight I did notice the enemies have some path-finding problems, especially if you get on the top platform where the boss is, they don't seem to know how to follow you. That's true not only for Wardens, but for every enemy in that fight.

[Bugzrip]

This thread makes me feel like I'm playing a different game to others, as the game really isn't that hard on 'Challenging/full tactical', even the early game, mostly because there is 0 punishment for a character getting KOed. I've entered fights with two characters on 5 HP, because healing them would be a waste of a medipod if they don't get hit that fight. By far the hardest part of the game is the pre-Jade sections, after that it only gets easier.

In my opinion, the hardest fight in the game is the one right before you get the first miasma power.

Use stealth to kill as many as you can and if a shot (crit) fails, it doesn't matter because you used stealth to start the fight in an advantageous position. Swap out abilities that are on cooldown. Don't sandbag items, use grenades and bottles liberally. There's no downside to a character being downed, so don't be afraid to put them in a bad position if it can get you a kill/crit. Jade can very quickly get 130 crit damage, with 55-65% crit chance, meaning literally more than half the time you can take out the 130 HP enemies as well as the 70 HP enemies. By the time you get the second silenced weapon, you can kill enemies with ~160 HP in stealth without crits, which usually means you only have to fight 3 or 4 enemies and it becomes a cakewalk.

Don't use overwatch unless it will definitely kill an enemy OR weaken multiple enemies to the point where they'll be killable next round - I've probably used overwatch less than 5 times total. Put a shotgun on Diggs and watch him mow down groups. If a character has rage, don't waste it on a low HP minion, attack one of the bigger enemies, even if it means going into a worse position. If you're in the stealth phase and have rage, put a silent weapon on them, put the +crit damage mod on the weapon, and kill a bigger enemy with it. Use miasma powers to either heal (witch doctor), reposition enemies, or weaken (desize), or stun (robots), depending on what is best for the situation.

Don't heal anyone unless they're KOed, it's just a waste of a medipod.

Mid game gets even easier because of all the robotic enemies and two silenced weapons, since you can just stun them silently & kill them. The very first collector fight with the 6 collectors, I killed all 6 one by one, I didn't even get to see what attacks/abilities they use because they never got a turn.

I don't know what the late/end game fights are like, but with the way your power snowballs so much, I can't imagine them getting much more difficult than those very first fights.

[Laurykat]

I agree with all of that. And yet the game was nerfed.

What I can understand is that some people don't want to be challenged or to obsess with maximising everything to win.

What I can not understand is that they choose to play the hardest difficulty setting, and then complain that it's too hard to ruin it for the rest of us.

[ELDEN LORD]

Originally posted by Bugzrip:

This thread makes me feel like I'm playing a different game to others, as the game really isn't that hard on 'Challenging/full tactical', even the early game, mostly because there is 0 punishment for a character getting KOed. I've entered fights with two characters on 5 HP, because healing them would be a waste of a medipod if they don't get hit that fight. By far the hardest part of the game is the pre-Jade sections, after that it only gets easier.

In my opinion, the hardest fight in the game is the one right before you get the first miasma power.

Use stealth to kill as many as you can and if a shot (crit) fails, it doesn't matter because you used stealth to start the fight in an advantageous position. Swap out abilities that are on cooldown. Don't sandbag items, use grenades and bottles liberally. There's no downside to a character being downed, so don't be afraid to put them in a bad position if it can get you a kill/crit. Jade can very quickly get 130 crit damage, with 55-65% crit chance, meaning literally more than half the time you can take out the 130 HP enemies as well as the 70 HP enemies. By the time you get the second silenced weapon, you can kill enemies with ~160 HP in stealth without crits, which usually means you only have to fight 3 or 4 enemies and it becomes a cakewalk.

Don't use overwatch unless it will definitely kill an enemy OR weaken multiple enemies to the point where they'll be killable next round - I've probably used overwatch less than 5 times total. Put a shotgun on Diggs and watch him mow down groups. If a character has rage, don't waste it on a low HP minion, attack one of the bigger enemies, even if it means going into a worse position. If you're in the stealth phase and have rage, put a silent weapon on them, put the +crit damage mod on the weapon, and kill a bigger enemy with it. Use miasma powers to either heal (witch doctor), reposition enemies, or weaken (desize), or stun (robots), depending on what is best for the situation.

Don't heal anyone unless they're KOed, it's just a waste of a medipod.

Mid game gets even easier because of all the robotic enemies and two silenced weapons, since you can just stun them silently & kill them. The very first collector fight with the 6 collectors, I killed all 6 one by one, I didn't even get to see what attacks/abilities they use because they never got a turn.

I don't know what the late/end game fights are like, but with the way your power snowballs so much, I can't imagine them getting much more difficult than those very first fights.

ya exactly and the devs are nerfing dmg wich is highly pissing me off, i dont even wanna paly anymore cuz of it, but ill finish since i paid 50 bones for the damn game

[ELDEN LORD]

Originally posted by Bugzrip:

This thread makes me feel like I'm playing a different game to others, as the game really isn't that hard on 'Challenging/full tactical', even the early game, mostly because there is 0 punishment for a character getting KOed. I've entered fights with two characters on 5 HP, because healing them would be a waste of a medipod if they don't get hit that fight. By far the hardest part of the game is the pre-Jade sections, after that it only gets easier.

In my opinion, the hardest fight in the game is the one right before you get the first miasma power.

Use stealth to kill as many as you can and if a shot (crit) fails, it doesn't matter because you used stealth to start the fight in an advantageous position. Swap out abilities that are on cooldown. Don't sandbag items, use grenades and bottles liberally. There's no downside to a character being downed, so don't be afraid to put them in a bad position if it can get you a kill/crit. Jade can very quickly get 130 crit damage, with 55-65% crit chance, meaning literally more than half the time you can take out the 130 HP enemies as well as the 70 HP enemies. By the time you get the second silenced weapon, you can kill enemies with ~160 HP in stealth without crits, which usually means you only have to fight 3 or 4 enemies and it becomes a cakewalk.

Don't use overwatch unless it will definitely kill an enemy OR weaken multiple enemies to the point where they'll be killable next round - I've probably used overwatch less than 5 times total. Put a shotgun on Diggs and watch him mow down groups. If a character has rage, don't waste it on a low HP minion, attack one of the bigger enemies, even if it means going into a worse position. If you're in the stealth phase and have rage, put a silent weapon on them, put the +crit damage mod on the weapon, and kill a bigger enemy with it. Use miasma powers to either heal (witch doctor), reposition enemies, or weaken (desize), or stun (robots), depending on what is best for the situation.

Don't heal anyone unless they're KOed, it's just a waste of a medipod.

Mid game gets even easier because of all the robotic enemies and two silenced weapons, since you can just stun them silently & kill them. The very first collector fight with the 6 collectors, I killed all 6 one by one, I didn't even get to see what attacks/abilities they use because they never got a turn.

I don't know what the late/end game fights are like, but with the way your power snowballs so much, I can't imagine them getting much more difficult than those very first fights.

ya i havnt had to do a mission for than twice. i simply stealth 90 percent of the peeps and pop the rest, its not hard. and the money issue went away around level 8 for me , everything i have i find. some peopel jsut dont get the game idk. maybe there just trying to paly too xcommy