Mining

[Kitsune Raven]

Can we have mining be actually worth doing? Bit depressing drilling into a big gold vein only to get like 5 or 10 actual gold. It's...VERY not worth doing at all. Feels like a major waste of time and energy, not to mention the paltry amount of exp you get for mining guild rep.

BIG PASS if anyone is thinking mining is worthwhile. It aint. Just stick with Freelance, Bounty and Merc missions unless ya got the time to burn. =(

[Violation]

I spent almost a week mining for no gains in xp or guild gains, the last update at least gives pain slow in gains but it does raise but it is stupidly low. I have been trying to get all guilds to level 3 at least, so far mining, adventurer, and brotherhood are the worst. I haven't figured out adventurer nor brotherhood yet and no idea what the last 2 locked guilds are yet. freelancer, merc, both maxed to level 4 unlock atm, bounty hunter at 3. not even sure why the developer nerfed mining so badly. freelancer and merc atm are the best ways to gain money in game.

[Lord Bludgeon]

It appears he wants just another space shooter and is discouraging any other potential advancement paths. Or, one may hope since I can't refund it, he just hasn't gotten around to fleshing out the other (more interesting) means of making a living that don't involve so much combat. Wish I'd known this before I bought it and wasted 9 hours trying to get to the good stuff just to find this out.

It would be helpful if he took a minute to explain ship classes and what each can or can't do, and maybe even tagged the ships as to what class they belong in (hauler, fighter, explorer; You know, kind of like No Man's Sky does?) Wasted quite a bit of currency buying mining equipment to discover it won't mount to my ship

[saviornt]

I bought the game day before yesterday and mining, so far, is my main source of income. It isn't really that difficult ONCE you get into the Mining Guild and purchase the mining ship from the Tier 1 mining merchant (the Huge-CMK-ZY). I'm also close to rank 3. I don't know if it helps or not, but the first thing I purchased in each class was the XP bonus.

Some tips I can think of off the back of my hand:
- Get into the Huge (T1 Carrier, carriers are the mining ships) as soon as possible.
- Keep the Misactor modules upgraded
- Only go after Gold -> Platinum -> Wolfram -> Asortak

For mining technique, this is what I found that works the best for me:

When first mining an asteroid, use the Misactor's Bomb in the center going from the front to the back of the asteroid until you hit a deposit. Then mine the deposit. Basically, from the viewing the front of the asteroid and using bombs, you're looking at making a + pattern. (bomb the center all the way through, then from the top to bottom. Then right to left. If you still haven't found a deposit, then move to a * (diagonal "cuts").

Tunneling will destroy the deposits. Not sure what the point of the Worms are.

Also, don't bother to compress the ore unless you have the 100% compression skill. If you're looking at "camping", then go after Gold asteroids - it's probably has the best money/hour anyways. Also, only sell the ore to the Mining Guild stations. Even with the T1 tax, iirc, it is still less than selling to a non-guild station.

Base values (remember that the mining guild takes a cut):
Gold - 2,200
Platinum - 3,050
Wolfram - 8.200
Asortak - 22,500 (or was it 32,500? I'll have to double-check, but Asortak deposits are tiny)

If I had a suggestion to the developer, it would be:

1. Make the Carrier class a drone-based combat ship (Not sure if the Falron Tank is a carrier or fighter atm. Either way, it would be a Carrier).
2. Make a new ship class called "Mining Barge". The Huge ships would fall under this new ship class.
3. Make the Worms into semi-automated mining "things". Basically, they would eat through the asteroid and deposit whatever they "eat" into your inventory.
4. Mining drones...
5. Please squash the asteroid scan/info window bug.
6. Increase the adventurer XP for mining
7. Not specifically mining related, but decrease the cost of drones to 10% of what they cost now since they are disposable.
8. Mining guild contracts: Turn in an X amount of [type] ore.
9. Increase the types of ores there are and base them in reality (ie: the table of elements)
10. Redo the asteroid spawns and have asteroid sizes (tiny, small, medium, large, huge) which designates the quantity of deposits, asteroid classes and rarity which would designate the deposits in the asteroid). The asteroid's texture (albedo channel) would naturally fall under the appropriate asteroid class (for example, a class M asteroid has an albedo of 0.14)

As far as 9. goes, I haven't gotten into crafting/engineering yet, but if it was up to me, items would need to have a ground-up approach. Basically, the end item would require components; those components would craftable and require various ores, although they would n't require a significant amount (1 or 2 of each).

[djinnxy]

I went in with my decked out tank only a little over half full of asortak and made 10 mil on level 1 mining tax rate. That gave me enough to get this ship and put it to my current level and tier 4 and load it with the best gear I could find. I still had enough left to buy the mining ship and gear it up.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2950091356

If I fill the tank up and get a better rate I can easily get 25 mil. I'm sure the mining ship is more with its larger cargo.