Your game has been stolen

[Varrgas 2.0]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2268560/Zombie_Survival_Game_Online/

Someone just took everything you did, all your ideas, etc., used the same asset pack and added multiplayer to take advantage of the situation with Surroundead not having it yet. .

This is so unfair...I'm speechless

I don't know if you've ever seen this, I just discovered it today and things like this piss me off

PS: I'm not saying this because of the use of the same asset pack, I'm aware of this.

[mono_wolf]

it seems similar (like SurrounDead and DeaPoly) but it seems a little different playing / drawing style.

Time will show

[Varrgas 2.0]

Originally posted by mono_wolf:

it seems similar (like SurrounDead and DeaPoly) but it seems a little different playing / drawing style.

Time will show :retro_beer::btlthumbup:

I tried the demo, and it's clear that the one behind this game played Surroundead and took a lot, a LOT of inspiration.
I looked at the Asset pack to better know what is in it, and seriously, this game (not Surroundead) is using a lot of what is premade as showcase, sometime even just copy/past and flip the assets.

And I instantly recognize many things, like if they placed the same way as in Surroundead, but aren't like this in the showcase, if you see what I mean.

And btw, what annoying me the most is that Surroundead is made by a solo dev who work on it since many years, and this pop just like that from nowhere, their communication for their game started only a month ago...

[mono_wolf]

Originally posted by Varrgas 2.0:

Originally posted by mono_wolf:

it seems similar (like SurrounDead and DeaPoly) but it seems a little different playing / drawing style.

Time will show

I tried the demo, and it's clear that the one behind this game played Surroundead and took a lot, a LOT of inspiration.
I looked at the Asset pack to better know what is in it, and seriously, this game (not Surroundead) is using a lot of what is premade as showcase, sometime even just copy/past and flip the assets.

And I instantly recognize many things, like if they placed the same way as in Surroundead, but aren't like this in the showcase, if you see what I mean.

And btw, what annoying me the most is that Surroundead is made by a solo dev who work on it since many years, and this pop just like that from nowhere, their communication for their game started only a month ago...

Oh ok I see. Well, do contact dev through Discord about it (mostly he is there)

[Skeleton Society]

That's the problem with using assets...anybody can buy them and use them. Telling the dev isn't going to do anything.

[mono_wolf]

Originally posted by Skeleton💀Soc13ty:

That's the problem with using assets...anybody can buy them and use them. Telling the dev isn't going to do anything.

I know, I just mentioned that in case the game was fully "stolen as is" from the right owner SurrounDead and just changing the name's title instead of someone buying the assets and working on them as SurrounDead and DeadPoly did.

[Varrgas 2.0]

Originally posted by Skeleton💀Soc13ty:

That's the problem with using assets...anybody can buy them and use them. Telling the dev isn't going to do anything.

it's not about the assets !
it's about the content en orientation of the game, about some place who are the same, not just "look like", but really 95% accurate, and I look at this asset pack, and many things like how camp are made, or some town, etc, are really very very close to what it is in Surroundead.

If it was something already made and available in the asset pack showcase, it would make sens, but it's not, and I don't trust the fact that a team of somehow 2 peoples have made places who are so close to the same as what a solo dev, who work alone on his game since many years, made many years before.

You played a lot this game (referring to your profile) and you know that some house are copy/past at different place in Surroundead, and the inside of theses house is the same, the Fridge, the sink, etc.
There are a lot of possible combinations and that the same for how town are made and everything.

Theses peoples didn't made a 100% copy with a different name, it's more subtle, they took the same bough the same assets, and just copy some idea who are in Surroundead, copy how some place are looking and made and just reproduce it.
(my english isn't great, it's hard to find the good words to explain this well, sorry. It's like if they have two screen, one with Surroundead running, and one with their game in map editor mode or something like this, and do the same in their game.)

But for me the most disgusting things is that they obviously take advantage of the Surroundead state and the fact that there isn't Online and multiplayer yet, the fact that the game is made by a solo Dev.

And, it seems that they take advantage to this situation to offer an alternative with online, before Surroundead have it, the other game isn't managed by someone alone but at least 2 or 3 peoples, maybe more.

When you look at each news and update of Surroundead, and look at the comment section, there and in the Hub, it's full of players asking to add the multiplayer/online feature.

It can't be a coincidence imo, theses guys have start to communicate about their game only 2 month ago or so, they came from nowhere and are actually just waiting the steam review of their game and it's page to let peoples buy it, but in the same time there is a demo, and a lot of things are clunky as ♥♥♥♥, it's sound like a cash grab for me.

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Ho, and... it's not a joke, they really claiming that in the future they will do their own, something that I don't trust because it would be close to impossible to do, players buy the game for its visuals and other criteria, if the visual change at then end for something else...

Visual is something you choose at the start and stick with it, you don't change it at the end of the project. It's different during Alpha and Beta testing of the concept, assets aren't really important at this stage because it's not the priority, visual come after that most of the time.

It is really a weird choice, and imo even if their game is successful it will never happen, I can't even think about one game who did this.



PS: Sorry for the big message.

[Apocalypse]

I see quite some difference between the mentioned game and Surroundead, but did not try the demo so maybe I am wrong.
If you want to see an even more scandalous scam, there is someone who has without any effort put into it made a game with almost the exact same name Deadpoly has, and is obviously just trying make people buy the wrong game by mistake:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2610760/Survival_Dead_Poly/

[Skeleton Society]

Not saying its right but thats just how it is when you use buyable assets. The apocalypse asset pack is hugely popular. This isn't the only one doing it. Fargone, Smallz, Under the Sun, etc. Just go to the store and look up 'low poly' and you will see all of them.

There have been people who have brought this up on Discord with other games and the dev didn't even respond. Just how it is.

And your English is fine.

[Varrgas 2.0]

Originally posted by Skeleton💀Soc13ty:

Not saying its right but thats just how it is when you use buyable assets. The apocalypse asset pack is hugely popular. This isn't the only one doing it. Fargone, Smallz, Under the Sun, etc. Just go to the store and look up 'low poly' and you will see all of them.

There have been people who have brought this up on Discord with other games and the dev didn't even respond. Just how it is.

And your English is fine.

Yeah I know... I know, I even tried to talk about this to some dev because it could be a bad point for their game (who are nice), but the answer is always the same "I'm solo" or "we are a small team" + "without skill to 3D modeling etc and assets pack are an easy and helpfull way to be able to still make our project".
So I ask "but there is others assets than this one that we see everywhere" and I give them around 5 or 6 games, some who are goods and some who are bad.
But they all act like if it was nothing important.

I think that this situation is terrible because too many indie games look like the same.
In a perfect world it could be amazing if Devs from different project who are very close to each other and using same assets, decide to work together on the same game, but we aren't in a perfect world (what a surprise! :p)

All of this isb't good, the last week I found 5 new freshly released games who are using it, again...
it's terrible to see this imo, we this low poly assets everywhere, and that not only for the Apocalypse version, a little less for the others but still.
The people who made this must be happy at least ^^

There is so much good assets pack available, for free or with a cost, but the fact that so many are using theses pack make me crazy.

(Thank you for my english, I'm glad that you can understand me well)

[Skeleton Society]

Originally posted by Varrgas 2.0:

Originally posted by Skeleton💀Soc13ty:

Not saying its right but thats just how it is when you use buyable assets. The apocalypse asset pack is hugely popular. This isn't the only one doing it. Fargone, Smallz, Under the Sun, etc. Just go to the store and look up 'low poly' and you will see all of them.

There have been people who have brought this up on Discord with other games and the dev didn't even respond. Just how it is.

And your English is fine.

Yeah I know... I know, I even tried to talk about this to some dev because it could be a bad point for their game (who are nice), but the answer is always the same "I'm solo" or "we are a small team" + "without skill to 3D modeling etc and assets pack are an easy and helpfull way to be able to still make our project".
So I ask "but there is others assets than this one that we see everywhere" and I give them around 5 or 6 games, some who are goods and some who are bad.
But they all act like if it was nothing important.

I think that this situation is terrible because too many indie games look like the same.
In a perfect world it could be amazing if Devs from different project who are very close to each other and using same assets, decide to work together on the same game, but we aren't in a perfect world (what a surprise! :p)

All of this isb't good, the last week I found 5 new freshly released games who are using it, again...
it's terrible to see this imo, we this low poly assets everywhere, and that not only for the Apocalypse version, a little less for the others but still.
The people who made this must be happy at least ^^

There is so much good assets pack available, for free or with a cost, but the fact that so many are using theses pack make me crazy.

(Thank you for my english, I'm glad that you can understand me well)

For me, the assets used aren't as important as gameplay. Nobody is going to top Zurvivor. He is very quick at fixing things and is constantly adding new content.

He has also added an artist and has started adding his own stuff, like character and clothing. I am sure there alot more to come.

Most of the games that are copying and pasting won't be around long. We just gotta be smart enough not to buy it. I love playing early access games but I do my research. Alot of shady people in this world...

[Arisen_24]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2242100/Fargone/
more like stalker with same asset.

[Varrgas 2.0]

Originally posted by Skeleton💀Soc13ty:

For me, the assets used aren't as important as gameplay. Nobody is going to top Zurvivor. He is very quick at fixing things and is constantly adding new content.

He has also added an artist and has started adding his own stuff, like character and clothing. I am sure there a lot more to come.

Most of the games that are copying and pasting won't be around long. We just gotta be smart enough not to buy it. I love playing early access games but I do my research. Alot of shady people in this world...

Far too much shady stuff for my taste too, you are 100% right.
Like what happen actually with Hero Siege, or dude who tried to sell a flipped version of the technical Demo of Matrix with UE5 even it's free and 100% not his work x)

The good things is that, it seems some players, who was silent before, finally start to stop accepting everything and raise their voice by message or review and stuff like that.
Many games that we would see rated positive or more, are now falling to negative and more.
And I'm really happy that, maybe some young players or new players have open their eyes when it's needed.

But it's an other subject ^^

Originally posted by arisen242:

more like stalker with same asset.

There is already 42 games who use this assets (on steam), at least I found and listed them without really any research, just by looking for a new game, or look at steam recommendation and similar games I've played before.
And there must be a lot more that I never seen, and more to come

[Varrgas 2.0]

Originally posted by TheeMan:

Just another game added to the list which also makes it fully legal since the money and time was still put into it otherwise it would not be another game since all games need work to become what they become.

Yes, but, this isn't just a usage of the same assets pack here.

[Varrgas 2.0]

Originally posted by Stryker:

When I saw this thread, I commented in the discussion board of the game in question and was starkly ridiculed in response and disrespected. I opted to remove myself thereafter from the conversation because of how cruel some forum posters can be. It is one reason I don't post replies to controversial discussions. People surely act differently over the internet than they would in-person in real life. So, I will just keep to myself and maybe the truth will present itself from the powers who control the Steam platform. Not sure why people can be so cruel to others, at least in my own part I opt to give respect to whomever I interact with, even if their point of view is different, whether online or in real life.

I was there, I know.
I don't like this too, but, even if I think that this guy haven't to talk like this, you still have a little responsibility for talking about something without information.
Maybe doing just some little research before talking of what you said would be a good idea, just saying, but still against people who react like he did.

regards

[Rzułf]

Originally posted by Apocalypse:

I see quite some difference between the mentioned game and Surroundead, but did not try the demo so maybe I am wrong.
If you want to see an even more scandalous scam, there is someone who has without any effort put into it made a game with almost the exact same name Deadpoly has, and is obviously just trying make people buy the wrong game by mistake:

I looked at the video and screenshots in the steam shop of "Survival Dead Poly" and it does not look like a copy of Surrooundead (e.g. tropical island setting, meteorite magic attack, banana rain magic x) ) Maybe you linked the wrong game?
the only similarity is the name I think.