Train routing issue

[joewagner501]

I am playing the NE US Challenge and ran into an issue after the last update. It affects all my lines (including new lines running the same routes) so I will use one line as an example.

My line is out and back and has the following stops in order:

NYC
Boston
Portland
Scott Terminal
Bangor
Moncton
Bangor
Scott Terminal
Portland
Boston

The train doesn't do the entire route. For example, I followed a train leaving NYC and it made it to Portland before turning around and heading back to NYC even though it showed the next stop being Scott Terminal. After getting back to NYC, it went straight to Scott Terminal where it turned around and went back to NYC even though it showed the next stop being Bangor.

I then created a new train line and gave it the same exact stops. The train made it all the way to Moncton, then started it's return leg. But once it got to Bangor, it turned around and headed back to Moncton even though it showed the next stop being Scott Terminal.

I hope you can help with this issue. If you need my dxdiag or a copy of the save game let me know.

[Mafik]

I am playing the India scenario and my trains seem to be going in random directions making the game completely unplayable.

[joewagner501]

I've had trains "reset" any time I make any change to the line. In the past they would all go back to the first stop and start working again. But this is something that doesn't end.

[Freeky]

Hi Mafik, Michael M and joewagner501,

Please send your savegames via email to [e-mail]. We will look into it and get back to you as soon as possible.
Please also include a detailed description and the map / scenario.

Steam:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\LONGNUMBER\1644320\remote\savegame

Cheers

[joewagner501]

Done. Thanks for looking into this. I tried starting a new game and the same issue arises as soon as I connect NYC to my Boston/Bangor line.

[Rolf]

Hey everyone :-)
What you describe sounds like the routing issue described in https://steamcommunity.com/app/1644320/discussions/2/4696783308569908385/ .
I was able to reproduce a similar situation, connecting 3 cities with multiple trains in a mixed rail line.
I forwarded this to the Devs.

[Just PeterD]

I noticed the same Joe saw.
In addition to this: The trains do even leave the route!
I had a connection set up on the route A - B - C - D - C - B (with 4 trains)
On the tracks between A and B I also had a connection to a wood station (with only 1 platform and I had that train set to run full)
After a bit of time I was confused why there was a train waiting at the wood station (not in the station since the platform was accopied by the wood train)
Turned out, 1 train from the first mentioned connection stepped out of the route and decided it had to go through the wood station. All other 3 trains did run fine.
I did triple check all my tracks/signals to see if I goofed up somewhere, but all was in order (hence the other 3 trains were running fine!)

[Lama]

Since the update, many of my routes have gone haywire.
Trains leave a station, but in the opposite direction of their next stop. Then they'll travel all the way to the end of the line and back, before resuming their regular course. In the meantime, they run out of maintenance and break down.

[joewagner501]

Hopefully they can get in a quick fix next week. Not only are the trains breaking down like you mention Lama, but it's a major hit to revenue.

[Mr_President]

Same issue here, lets hope it gets fixed soon.

[Dray Prescot]

I have seen the same problem in the South India Scenario. See my Bug Report Message directly above this message.

I think that the problem may be connect to quirky problems with Passenger and Mail or Express Deliveries.

Once I started using pure Freight Train Routes, those Trains seemed to not have any problems.

My multi City Express Train routes seemed to have this problem, and when I broke the Express Train Route up into 2 City only Express Routes, that seemed to fix the problem.

[joewagner501]

Short runs work as long as it's between 2 cities. But that's not a feasible answer for the game. Interesting you don't have problems with freight because I have the same issue regardless of train type (mixed, freight, passenger, mail).

[Just PeterD]

I just setup a fresh south india scenario and tried to do freight only to see if that helped.
I setup a train running from Anantapur - Tirupati - Nellore - Tirupati
I had a warehouse in Tiupati containing all raw materials (wood, grain, rice etc)
I then watched 1 train moving a couple of times and every time it took the route:
Anantaput - Tirupati - Nellore - Tirupati - Nellore - Tirupati - Anatapur, so it did the trip Tirupati to Nellore twice (without stopping at the station the second time
I then thought, ok mayby a waypoint after the last stop in Tirupati might do a trick. That worked one run, but after that it went back to the old behaviour.
So I guess Joe is right, it does affect freight only as well.

[Lama]

Just to bump this - the issue is persistent and ubiquitous. Playing a free mode game that has run ten years, all over the map trains are running wild. It seems to affect longer routes more than short ones, but the number of trains in the route does not matter. Happens to trains that are the only ones on their schedule. Happens to two out of four, for example, on a multi-train scheduled.

The game is not playable until this is fixed. Devs should treat this as an urgent issue.

[mboer297]

i tried a couple of times different solutions and start different new games on differen continents. even if i split the train in cargo and goods it won;t help. so i decided that maybe by the the update it;s something wrong. So i decided to delete the game completely and install again. But the results are just the same as it is. and now i can't play the game correctly. becauce it's really frustrated to build something and the trains going off-route every time

[Empty1958]

It finally started on my machine yesterday. I had been playing a game for several days without a problem. I had several multi-destination routes and many 2 destination with all running well. About the same time I satisfied the task list (1838) I noticed the multi-destination routes had problems. As Dray Prescot had mentioned the simple 2 destination routes run fine.