*SPOLERS* Plot Inconsistency?

[JAMOY]

I am not sure if im mis remembering. But i think i found an inconsistency in the plot of the game.

So Strelok is a S.T.A.L.K.E.R, programmed by the C-Consciousness to kill himself. There are cinematic of him being indoctrinated in a shady place in the original games that show televisions flickering and frying his brain or in this case programming it.

So I have just got to the part where you meet him for the first time in Stalker 2, the tv's cause Dark to go absolutely ape and then unalive himself. Strelok then subdues you and disarms you. One of the dialogue options he states "Stalkers cannot survive another exposure to the visual programmers".

My question is, if Strelok was once a programmed stalker using the same programming technique... Why is he not dead?

[Seath]

Asking myself same question.
Maybe it has something to do with his program being faulty as mentioned in his agent documents in the game ending.
Maybe not.

Maybe devs just didn't care enough to make thing consistent, and just wanted to make a cool scene.
Or different devs were responsible for different scenes without checking if everything fits tight.

[JAMOY]

Originally posted by Seath:

Asking myself same question.
Maybe it has something to do with his program being faulty as mentioned in his agent documents in the game ending.
Maybe not.

Maybe devs just didn't care enough to make thing consistent, and just wanted to make a cool scene.
Or different devs were responsible for different scenes without checking if everything fits tight.

Good point, it might be because he was programmed to kill himself and him realising he was infarct Strelok maybe broke the programming?

[Spiritfarer]

Originally posted by JAMOY:

Originally posted by Seath:

Asking myself same question.
Maybe it has something to do with his program being faulty as mentioned in his agent documents in the game ending.
Maybe not.

Maybe devs just didn't care enough to make thing consistent, and just wanted to make a cool scene.
Or different devs were responsible for different scenes without checking if everything fits tight.

Good point, it might be because he was programmed to kill himself and him realising he was infarct Strelok maybe broke the programming?

We could also guess that he was not programmed properly, cause he didn't executed the program in SoC. He didn't kill himself

[JAMOY]

Originally posted by Spiritfarer:

Originally posted by JAMOY:

Good point, it might be because he was programmed to kill himself and him realising he was infarct Strelok maybe broke the programming?

We could also guess that he was not programmed properly, cause he didn't executed the program in SoC. He didn't kill himself

I mean I did wonder if indoctrinated S.T.A.L.K.E.R.S are as mindless as the monolithians, which led me to think about why Strelok didn't off himself immediately upon discovering that he himself was in fact Strelok.

We however dont have a large enough sample size to actually tell how reliable the programming is aside from what Strelok says. As it appears that Streloks trap has killed many S.T.A.L.K.E.R.S so I think its more reasonable to assume that the programming might be pretty reliable anyways. I expect the programming that Dark received is identical to what Strelok got. It may also be possible that Doc helped him somehow as he was one of the original members of C-Consciousness maybe?

I would love to hear what the game designers at GSC have to say about this.

[Seath]

Originally posted by JAMOY:

Originally posted by Spiritfarer:

We could also guess that he was not programmed properly, cause he didn't executed the program in SoC. He didn't kill himself

I mean I did wonder if indoctrinated S.T.A.L.K.E.R.S are as mindless as the monolithians, which led me to think about why Strelok didn't off himself immediately upon discovering that he himself was in fact Strelok.

We however dont have a large enough sample size to actually tell how reliable the programming is aside from what Strelok says. As it appears that Streloks trap has killed many S.T.A.L.K.E.R.S so I think its more reasonable to assume that the programming might be pretty reliable anyways. I expect the programming that Dark received is identical to what Strelok got. It may also be possible that Doc helped him somehow as he was one of the original members of C-Consciousness maybe?

I would love to hear what the game designers at GSC have to say about this.

No, indoctrinated stlakers are certainly NOT mindless. None of them were. Neither Dark or Scar could be called mindless either, while also being certified successful agents. They do carry their program, yet they are still quite capable of making complex and independent decisions, even though said decisions work towards the program goal.
Actually, monolithians aren't mindless either, they just live in a difference spiritual value system while monolith is active.
Only true mindless enemies are zombies and mutants.

[Othobrithol]

They botched his programming. Instead of keeping his personality and encoding his objective, his memory is wiped. He pursues the "kill the strelok" order on his PDA since it is the only clue he has about who he is and how he got in the zone.

[UkrainianDoomer]

In the last game area you get records about C-Consciousness agents.
They state that Strelok's programming was botched.