S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

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Hashi23 Dec 8, 2024 @ 12:34pm
True Ending (Massive spoilers)
So I just finished the story and did the Ward ending, and after I watched the others, I concluded that the Ward Ending is the true ending for several reasons. The first reason is that it is revealed at the end (Ward ending) that Skif is an agent for C-Consciousness, even though it was very obvious half way through the campaign. The second reason is that destroying the zone was what C-Consciousness always wanted since they intented to stop back in SoC and created the Monolith to protect themselves from Stalkers and the outside world while they were figuring out how to clean up their mess. And the final reason is that both C-Consciousness and the Ward were created by the same people and have the same objective. What do you guys think?
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Hello There Dec 9, 2024 @ 10:23am 
Skif is not the agent. Look at the monitors at the movie. You can see through the Sidorovich eyes
Hashi23 Dec 9, 2024 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by Hello There:
Skif is not the agent. Look at the monitors at the movie. You can see through the Sidorovich eyes
Only you don't. I went back to rewatch the ending and I can confirm that you only look through Skif's eyes, the other TVs are only showcasing static, which was actually a detail that I missed when I first wrote this post. So the whole myth "You can see through Sidorovich's eyes" is debunked.
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Jankulowski Dec 9, 2024 @ 11:11pm 
Originally posted by Hashi23:
Originally posted by Hello There:
Skif is not the agent. Look at the monitors at the movie. You can see through the Sidorovich eyes
Only you don't. I went back to rewatch the ending and I can confirm that you only look through Skif's eyes, the other TVs are only showcasing static, which was actually a detail that I missed when I first wrote this post. So the whole myth "You can see through Sidorovich's eyes" is debunked.
Well, as far as I'm aware some of these weren't meant to be static. You can clearly see zone views, Sidorovich bunker among the Skiff looking at the keys.
Hashi23 Dec 10, 2024 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by Jankulowski:
Originally posted by Hashi23:
Only you don't. I went back to rewatch the ending and I can confirm that you only look through Skif's eyes, the other TVs are only showcasing static, which was actually a detail that I missed when I first wrote this post. So the whole myth "You can see through Sidorovich's eyes" is debunked.
Well, as far as I'm aware some of these weren't meant to be static. You can clearly see zone views, Sidorovich bunker among the Skiff looking at the keys.
So, I went to watch this ending from different youtube channels to see if it's true, and it isn't. In everyone's ending all the TVs except the one showing what Skif sees are static. So either everyone coincidently got this bug, myself included, or the whole Sidorovich thing is lie.
BOT Cecil Dec 10, 2024 @ 1:01pm 
I don't think Skif was a C-Conciousness agent. Remember when you face Strelok and he fries the brains of that guy that was with you (i think his name was Dark?)? And when you fight with Scar, you use the monitors to weaken him. All agents are vulnerable to being exposed again to the "brain scorching". Hence why I don't think Skif is an agent.

I think what happens is when Ward takes over the machine, they turn everyone in the Zone into agents.
BOT Cecil Dec 10, 2024 @ 1:05pm 
I just remembered there's more. Kroshunov asks you to go into the lab basement to find the physical dossiers with all the agents. That's when you meet Scar and have to fight him. Skif doesn't show up in those records, otherwise he would have confronted Kroshunov since he wanted to eradicate all agents. Ironic that in the end he becomes a conduit for the representatives to turn everyone into agents
trumpor2020 Dec 10, 2024 @ 1:10pm 
I came to same conclusion when Korshunov told that there are several sillent Agents who left the zone and can't be tracked, Skif just fits in so well and his strange motivation is now clear. Even Agata teases Skif when they discuss C-Consciousness saying Monolith is stupid brut force but their Agents *looks at Skif* is smth she finds intriguing.

The Sidorovich bunker is really there btw but that doesn't depreciate the theory. I think Agata can now just track and recode anyone in the zone (or even all over the world) as she controls Noosphere.

Or maybe Sidorovich was also an agent who's programm was to pick the best stalkers and send them to Monolith. But that sounds dumb)
Tred Dec 10, 2024 @ 3:57pm 
https://imgur.com/a/HXbbvg9

Most of the monitors were transmitting someones POV in my ending.
Hashi23 Dec 11, 2024 @ 3:55am 
Originally posted by BOT Cecil:
I don't think Skif was a C-Conciousness agent. Remember when you face Strelok and he fries the brains of that guy that was with you (i think his name was Dark?)? And when you fight with Scar, you use the monitors to weaken him. All agents are vulnerable to being exposed again to the "brain scorching". Hence why I don't think Skif is an agent.

I think what happens is when Ward takes over the machine, they turn everyone in the Zone into agents.
Korshunov also mentions that the agents are evolving and getting harder to track, so it's plausable that the whole brainwashing with the monitors was removed and this is hinted by Korshunov since he did say that agents outside the zone were irrecongizable from normal people. As for the dossier with the agents we don't know when it was written, but it's likely that it was written in 2012 based on the names and the fact that Dark had an old PDA on him, also there are clearly far more agents than listed in the dossier based on the bodies alone. As for the Ward wanting to turn people into agents for their own benefit, I agree, but I don't think that they turned people in the Zone into agents at least when the ending cuts since it would be impossible to do so in such a small amount of time. But I do believe that they intend to turn people into agents to do their bidding.
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Hashi23 Dec 11, 2024 @ 3:57am 
Originally posted by Tred:
https://imgur.com/a/HXbbvg9

Most of the monitors were transmitting someones POV in my ending.
Thanks for sharing that, in my ending all the screens are static, except for Skif's. This also appears to be case with all the videos that I watched on youtube.
Last edited by Hashi23; Dec 11, 2024 @ 3:58am
Hashi23 Dec 11, 2024 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by trumpor2020:
I came to same conclusion when Korshunov told that there are several sillent Agents who left the zone and can't be tracked, Skif just fits in so well and his strange motivation is now clear. Even Agata teases Skif when they discuss C-Consciousness saying Monolith is stupid brut force but their Agents *looks at Skif* is smth she finds intriguing.

The Sidorovich bunker is really there btw but that doesn't depreciate the theory. I think Agata can now just track and recode anyone in the zone (or even all over the world) as she controls Noosphere.

Or maybe Sidorovich was also an agent who's programm was to pick the best stalkers and send them to Monolith. But that sounds dumb)
The main reasons for me to think that Skif was an agent was the fact that he has no family nor friends and also Faust calls him an "envoy of the Monolith", meaning that Skif was sent here by the Monolith and that he was being punished by "Him", who I think is the Representative and strangely both C-Consciousness and the Ward were created by the same people. As for Sidorovich being an agent, I mean it's possible that he does something, but I think that could be that the Ward is just watching him (Yes someone had to sent a picture of the screens not showing static for me to believe this). But if it turns out that Sidorovich is also an agent I wouldn't be suprised since he's always shady.
Dismellion Dec 17, 2024 @ 12:55pm 
True ending is Strelok ending, simply because the cycle is complete. Strelok came to kill members and stop C-Consciousness that was created to postpone and stop zone, later on Strelok literally becomes the member himself, postponing and stopping zone in his way by isolating it.

The cycle is complete, until somebody else will come for Strelok himself.
Seath Dec 17, 2024 @ 3:29pm 
Originally posted by Hashi23:
So I just finished the story and did the Ward ending, and after I watched the others, I concluded that the Ward Ending is the true ending for several reasons. The first reason is that it is revealed at the end (Ward ending) that Skif is an agent for C-Consciousness, even though it was very obvious half way through the campaign. The second reason is that destroying the zone was what C-Consciousness always wanted since they intented to stop back in SoC and created the Monolith to protect themselves from Stalkers and the outside world while they were figuring out how to clean up their mess. And the final reason is that both C-Consciousness and the Ward were created by the same people and have the same objective. What do you guys think?

They were created by the same people, but C-Con betrayed those who originally created it (or, well, funded it) and went against them.
So Ward and C-Con are clearly enemies.

Also, if we are going to do whatever C-Con want, why would Monolith oppose us then?
(TBH, Monolith is the enemy in all endings, and the only explanation I have is Monolith being AI-powered with a single tast of protecting X-7 from intruders at all costs, no matter if they go along C-Con plan or not)

ALSO ALSO
It's been stated a few times that Scar's plan is something that C-Con wanted all along.
And he's doing the exact opposite of what Ward is doing.

(And yes, I agree that Skif is an agent. He doesn't die on monitors like Dark or Scar? Well, certified agent Strelok doesn't either. Strelok's programming is faulty? Well, Skif's might be as well.)
Seath Dec 17, 2024 @ 3:32pm 
Originally posted by trumpor2020:
I came to same conclusion when Korshunov told that there are several sillent Agents who left the zone and can't be tracked, Skif just fits in so well and his strange motivation is now clear. Even Agata teases Skif when they discuss C-Consciousness saying Monolith is stupid brut force but their Agents *looks at Skif* is smth she finds intriguing.

The Sidorovich bunker is really there btw but that doesn't depreciate the theory. I think Agata can now just track and recode anyone in the zone (or even all over the world) as she controls Noosphere.

Or maybe Sidorovich was also an agent who's programm was to pick the best stalkers and send them to Monolith. But that sounds dumb)

Korshunov also states that Skif seems to have special talent of trusting everyone. And later in Scar's documents we see that he was implanted with specific character traits.
I see that as a hint that being overly trusty is a part of Skif's programming.
Seath Dec 17, 2024 @ 3:38pm 
Originally posted by BOT Cecil:
I just remembered there's more. Kroshunov asks you to go into the lab basement to find the physical dossiers with all the agents. That's when you meet Scar and have to fight him. Skif doesn't show up in those records, otherwise he would have confronted Kroshunov since he wanted to eradicate all agents. Ironic that in the end he becomes a conduit for the representatives to turn everyone into agents

Scar also has dossier #421
That assumes about 400 different agents or more. Which sounds reasonable considering amount of monitors we see in the end.

ALSO
It has 5 agents.
All of which are currently in the zone, and also... dead? Scar, Strelok, Dark, Nestor and the 5th guy whatever his name?
Then why the hell Korshunov tells us about agents that are outside the Zone, that need to be found using those papers? The only reasonable answer - we haven't been shown all of them, just... some of them we might recognize.
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