What ending is Canon?

[METAL]

Do we know what ending they'll be using as a base for the future DLC?

[doscomputer]

there is also this hole with the level 5 psi protection. first of all, why was koroshonov the only one with it? and secondly, why does literally nobody acknowledge that skiff somehow never gets majorly affected by psi?? everyone else gets turned into zombies except for him? yet nobody realizes this?

Im tellin ya theres definitely gonna be lore buried under the DLC, and I still bet its probably gonna lead to different, more open ended endings. or the devs writing isn't as good as it was in 2007

[LykosNychi]

doscomputer の投稿を引用：

there is also this hole with the level 5 psi protection. first of all, why was koroshonov the only one with it? and secondly, why does literally nobody acknowledge that skiff somehow never gets majorly affected by psi?? everyone else gets turned into zombies except for him? yet nobody realizes this?

Im tellin ya theres definitely gonna be lore buried under the DLC, and I still bet its probably gonna lead to different, more open ended endings. or the devs writing isn't as good as it was in 2007

Yeah I mention this to my friends constantly when I'm theorizing.
Skif is unique, in some way. !00%. He's unique in the same way that only prior zone legends are, and 2/3 of those legends are confirmed to have been neuroprogrammed before you played them, and the third worked for the SBU and used to live in Pripyiat, so there's a chance he was a subject too.

[LykosNychi]

doscomputer の投稿を引用：

but is he lost that programming in SOC, why would it matter. My line of logic is why would the c-consciousness need him to spill the details of X project to multiple different authorities?

there could be some line where he was just being a sleeper, or he got changed back into being an agent, but with the current story as it is I don't see it. dude seems too salient during stalker 2 for him to just be an agent. And why would the c-consciousness want to wall off the zone anyways? isn't strelok and agatha in the pods harming the power of their shining reflection? and why would doctor/faust want strelok in control? if he was actually still alive why didn't he intervene?

Did he though?
My point isn't that he was programmed between CS and SOC
He was programmed before CS.

Strelok was an agent or test subject of some kind before he ever reached the centre of the Zone. There's no indication that gaining a new type of programming loses the old type. In fact, that could be a good reason for the mix up that causes the new programming to not just cause himself to jump into an anomaly when he realizes he's Strelok.

[doscomputer]

LykosNychi の投稿を引用：

Did he though?
My point isn't that he was programmed between CS and SOC
He was programmed before CS.

Right, which takes place before SoC, the game where cannonically Strelok seems to lose his brainwashing, and consciously decides to destroy c-consciousness out of revenge.

this is also why his profile in stalker 2 says his only goal was to kill himself, and that it was a mistake. Even the board/sircaa/whoever bankrolling the zone seems to believe his task as an agent was only to be an assassin, and not literally destroy the c-con pods, thus breaking the link to the monolith, and plunging the entire zone into chaos. It just makes no sense for an agent of the c-con to destory them as c-con. If they really wanted to be killed just to test subtle matter or the shining zone, why couldn't any of the monolithian goons have just done it for them? idk if you know but strelok didn't just walk into the CNPP, there was an insane amount of resistance... both times actually

And actually the more I think about it, I doubt he was an agent in CS either. Why would the c-con be interested having its agents fight each other? In fact Scar's bio makes it sound like he was only turned into an agent AFTER CS and not before given his abilities to survive emissions is only learned about exactly at the start of clear sky. And for that matter Strelok's goal in clear sky was simply to make it to the wish granter, ie, he wasn't yet converted into an agent. And that leads right into shadow of chernobyl with strelok coming hot off the death truck, not knowing who he even is (marked one), and even walking into his own boobytraps at his stash... only to be found by doctor and reminded of his true self.

and like yeah they could re-write or retcon these things in a lot of ways, but I think the old lore was that he wasn't programmed until that first battle at the CNPP in Clear Sky.

[TsPok]

Oh, I write a lot about Strelok, but it lost :(
Shortly:
Strelok is Doctor's "agent" of Project Y. That is why he has failed to become C-con truly agent and lost his memories.

He become obessed to come to center of Zone after parting with Doctor. Before that he was just good stalker that was working at the north parts of the Zone.
After that he came to nuclear plant, reaches Monolith, but do not make his wish. So do his groupmates - they take him away from Nuclear plant and do not fell upon Monolith call.

Note, that they do not use thurd-party devices to supress psi-power and neglect mind-scorcher. How? May be Doctor showed them a way or gives hints.

Only when Doctor change his mind about Zone and "buried" Kaymanov, Strelok has to go there by himself and shut off mind scorcher.

[shiby]

Hello There の投稿を引用：

JackieTheDemon の投稿を引用：

I'd say Strelok ending. Since Strelok is HIM.

Developers says Skiff ending is canon now.

source? i'd like to see where they said that

[Foxrun]

shiby の投稿を引用：

Hello There の投稿を引用：

Developers says Skiff ending is canon now.

source? i'd like to see where they said that

They havent. We don't know the canon ending. I'm guessing the Strelok ending.

[Joikax]

After noclipping around innaccessible areas I'm convinced they're going to play it off Skif's ending (where you side with ward).


You find multiple crashed ecologist bunkers on the way to the generators through the clearly intented playable path that isn't even irradiated all the way back from pripyat (which even has Hermit dead in the first hut outside the city).

Ward's ending has Skif and Agatha coming outside to a bunch of helicopters arriving, some of them transporting new ecologist bunkers. It lines up.

- - - - - - - - - - - - -

Worth mentioning that inside those bunkers there's even a screen referencing X-7 directly (the final lab with the pods at the end), along with what seem to be small scale teletransportation devices resembling the large scale one found in the room you arrive at after going through the Red Fortress's portal. (You find the exact same large scale cut-in-half circular device back in pripyat at the start of the DLC route I mentioned, although it makes very little sense for it to be where it is, I'll admit; The location is probably going to be heavily guarded in the DLC itself but still its placement is rather weird in some super accessible backstore with an elevator)

Basically what I'm trying to say with that last paragraph is that Agatha, and by consequence the Ward/SIRCAA, are the only ones with a clear link to C-Con, X-7 and all the high tech gadgets developed through Project-X so if those elements are present throughout the DLC route and inside these... and only these... eco bunkers it is safe to assume they are the new ward bunkers that arrived during ward's ending.

[Talus]

Joikax の投稿を引用：

After noclipping around innaccessible areas I'm convinced they're going to play it off Skif's ending (where you side with ward).


You find multiple crashed ecologist bunkers on the way to the generators through the clearly intented playable path that isn't even irradiated all the way back from pripyat (which even has Hermit dead in the first hut outside the city).

Have you played through all four endings yet? Those bunkers aren't DLC content. They are the alternate paths of the other endings.

[Cheyenesku]

Joikax の投稿を引用：

After noclipping around innaccessible areas I'm convinced they're going to play it off Skif's ending (where you side with ward).


You find multiple crashed ecologist bunkers on the way to the generators through the clearly intented playable path that isn't even irradiated all the way back from pripyat (which even has Hermit dead in the first hut outside the city).

Ward's ending has Skif and Agatha coming outside to a bunch of helicopters arriving, some of them transporting new ecologist bunkers. It lines up.

- - - - - - - - - - - - -

Worth mentioning that inside those bunkers there's even a screen referencing X-7 directly (the final lab with the pods at the end), along with what seem to be small scale teletransportation devices resembling the large scale one found in the room you arrive at after going through the Red Fortress's portal. (You find the exact same large scale cut-in-half circular device back in pripyat at the start of the DLC route I mentioned, although it makes very little sense for it to be where it is, I'll admit; The location is probably going to be heavily guarded in the DLC itself but still its placement is rather weird in some super accessible backstore with an elevator)

Basically what I'm trying to say with that last paragraph is that Agatha, and by consequence the Ward/SIRCAA, are the only ones with a clear link to C-Con, X-7 and all the high tech gadgets developed through Project-X so if those elements are present throughout the DLC route and inside these... and only these... eco bunkers it is safe to assume they are the new ward bunkers that arrived during ward's ending.

The Zone is "turned off" in Ward ending, check the name of thats cutscenes music theme, its called SALVAGE. Only labs and tech experiments remain. Ward, as the ending indicates, wanted mostly Fiber and STALKER projects.

[Cheyenesku]

I think the canon ending (and the best one, but all are really good) is Skiff ending (not the Ward one, thats not Skiff ending). That revelation at the end. <mindblown> Stalker story and endings were always bleak and this by far suits the series the most.
But every ending means also exactly the same thing - Skif was manipulated by everyone, even without him being a brainwashed sleeper agent.
Also DLCs wont take place after the main story but during - there are place on the map that are not accessible. Lets face it - Stalker game without the ability to visit the reactor is not Stalker game fully.

[Joikax]

Talus の投稿を引用：

Joikax の投稿を引用：

After noclipping around innaccessible areas I'm convinced they're going to play it off Skif's ending (where you side with ward).


You find multiple crashed ecologist bunkers on the way to the generators through the clearly intented playable path that isn't even irradiated all the way back from pripyat (which even has Hermit dead in the first hut outside the city).

Have you played through all four endings yet? Those bunkers aren't DLC content. They are the alternate paths of the other endings.

You're right, my mistake.

I got confused because as I mentioned, Hermit is found dead at the begining of that particular path yet you can find his notes scattered around the Zone previously. Makes little sense to have his closure be hidden behind a select ending, for a character that's not even related to the story; So I got convinced that was likelly part of of a DLC to give closure to that arc. The bunkers being there and in the state they were confused me equally as much given Ward's ending with the helicopters. I'm not ashamed in regards to that, the way the game's narrative is presented is a complete mess; I took Strelok's ending and nothing regarding that alternate path and its events is presented as information whatsoever.

And yes I also mispoke about Skif's ending, my head derped because I remember Skif walks off "unscathed" during the Ward's ending, but I know what people refer to as "Skif Ending" is actually Kaymanov's (which makes no sense why people started misapropriating the term just for the fact that he goes into the pod... hence my confusion at the moment of typing the previous post).